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To think a judge should not be able to stop a mother from breast feeding?

373 replies

HolidayArmadillo · 09/11/2013 22:09

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If this is true I think this judge has been wholly out of order. What about this child's rights? And any father worth their salt would not demand this.

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neunundneunzigluftballons · 09/11/2013 23:47

A friend of ours has had his ds every second weekend and one night midweek since he was born; ff obviously. They adore each other and have a fabulous bond and the whole experience is invaluable to both of them.I bf ds who is 2. I am on the fence. We live in a formula dominated culture so that father is probably not vaguely aware of the enormity of what he is asking, a bf co sleeping child will struggle to be with a relatively unknown person. The father should however be very involved in the child's life that bond is hugely important to the child. A balance should be struck. The judges comments are idiotic though.

neunundneunzigluftballons · 09/11/2013 23:50

Mylovelyboy with all due respect but with 2 weeks bf behind you do you honestly feel you are best placed to give bf even weaning advice? I had 2x 2 weeks of bf my first 2 children I knew next to nothing about bf after those experiences.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 09/11/2013 23:51

At 10 months the child doesn't need the breast for nutrition as much as they did.

Id argue in favour of the judge and father here and say it's better for the child to have contact over the need for the breast.

Mylovelyboy · 09/11/2013 23:52

Pomd I agree with you. I think the judge is wrong, if you look at one of my previous posts. Still night feeds at 20 months Confused sorry but that is not normal. She is obviously hungry at night and should not be at 20 months. Bordering on being a toddler. I'd knock that on the head. You must be exhausted.

pomdereplay · 09/11/2013 23:53

Mylovelyboy do some reading and do not tell me how to parent. My DD is exceeding all her milestones and is a fantastic, bright, very happy child. How incredibly rude and presumptuous of you.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 09/11/2013 23:54

Sorry but surely by 10 months plus then breast feeding is more for the mums benefit - bonding really - over nutrition?

You could argue that if the mum insisted on breast feeding for 2-3 years the child will never get used to overnight visits and by age 3 will find it very difficult to settle at their dads.

basgetti · 09/11/2013 23:57

Of course the baby needs a relationship with her Dad but this can be built up with regular daytime contact to start with. Ordering that a ten month old baby should be taken away from her primary carer and being breastfed for 2 nights straight away is prioritizing the father's wants over a baby's needs.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 09/11/2013 23:59

The baby doesn't need the breast though.
The mum could express (if she is able) and quietly smirk as he attempts to give the bottle to the baby through the night.

Tbh I'm surprised she's not elated about a night off. Single mum and breast feeding, most people would welcome a full nights sleep!

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 00:00

neunund so because i only bf for two weeks does not mean i cant give bf advice. Why not, I could bf quite well. Just could not take the hungry crying baby. My ds needed thick formula to fill him up. Just because you bf longer does not make you any more of an expert than someone that did if for two weeks. How can you say you had no bf experience after feeding your dc. Of course you did. You bf fed them

PinkPepper · 10/11/2013 00:02

At 10 months a baby still needs milk of course it's not for the mothers benefit.

What stupid statements on this thread

neunundneunzigluftballons · 10/11/2013 00:03

Breast feeding more for the moms benefit. The formula companies did not have much work to do on you. That is a really stupid comment Normal. Bf always benefits the baby nutritionally where it is always far superior that formula and emotionally. For the record as I said above I agree that somehow the father needs to be accommodated here too but that nonsensical comment cannot go unchallenged.

basgetti · 10/11/2013 00:03

Why would she quietly smirk whilst he attempts to give an unwanted bottle to a potentially distressed child? I would imagine she is more concerned about her baby's welfare than one upmanship against her ex. And please don't assume single mothers must be desperate for time away from their babies.

PinkPepper · 10/11/2013 00:04

And I definitely agree the baby does need relationship with father, obviously it's a difficult situation

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 00:04

pomd im sure your dd is doing great and you are a wonderful mother. Im not saying you are not at all Smile All i am saying is that night feeding a 20 month old is not the norm.

neunundneunzigluftballons · 10/11/2013 00:04

My lovely baby I completely beg to differ and you posts show you are completely ignorant about bf too.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 10/11/2013 00:05

Perhaps it's just me that saw weaning as just that, getting the child onto solid food then.

I've been a single mum of a 10month old and yes I would have absofuckinglutely loved to have had a night 'off'

Caitlin17 · 10/11/2013 00:07

I admit I'm biased as I loathed breastfeeding and breastfeeding toddlers is just , well I won't say.

I'm not convinced in the slightest by the need to be fixated on breastfeeding a 10 month old. Weighing up the 2, assuming the father is genuine and is capable of looking after his child the loss of the opportunity to bond with the father
seems , to me, by far the worst of 2 choices. Also, "she's very passionate about the rights to breast feed" No one's telling her she can't. She won't dry up overnight. She should look at this in the round as to what is best for the child, not just what she wants.

BlackeyedSusan · 10/11/2013 00:07

www.legalaid.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0008/9737/Parenting-Arrangements-for-0-to-4-year-olds-September-2011.pdf this study says that the child does not necessarily benefit from seeing it's other parent overnight and there can be attachment issues if taken away from the primary carer for longish periods.

PinkPepper · 10/11/2013 00:07

My child has plenty of solid food. He also has breastmilk? He's not fully weaned no. It's quite definitely the norm for a lot of people

PinkPepper · 10/11/2013 00:08

Why is this even a debate about bf toddlers? The baby is 10 months old! Tiny

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 10/11/2013 00:09

No. He's not fully weaned at all. You're just drawing the process out.

Mylovelyboy · 10/11/2013 00:09

Pink we are saying that bf a baby of 10 months is for the mothers benefit. At that age the baby can easily have formula. Wont kill it

DoctorRobert · 10/11/2013 00:10

mylovelyboy when you say that night feeding a 20 month old isn't normal, do you mean it isn't the norm biologically or culturally?

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts · 10/11/2013 00:10

No that's not on - and surely breaches some law somewhere?

Btw she has been ordered to let the child spend two consecutive nights with the father - so no way conducive to bf.

Normalisavariantofcrazy · 10/11/2013 00:10

10 months is not tiny. A lot are standing and cruising some are even walking.

They're not new babies who need to rely on breast feeding. They're little people who are starting to recognise the key members of their family and forming life bonds with them.