to think that you should not lie your baby down on her changing mat and change her nappy on the floor in the middle of a crowded exhibition hall?

[Mintyy]

I expect I'll get some yanbus as I've seen people attempting to justify changing nappies in restaurants and libraries before now.

But, it's just really not on, is it?

Reading this thread does make me wonder if, when people have children, do some of them actually lose all respect for the rest of the population who DO NOT WANT TO SEE/SMELL YOUR BABIES SHITTY NAPPIES. I too avoid any place that advertises itself as family friendly.

A lot of people do visualise

not the ones who think I'm an entitled, twatty minger obviously

Visualise, if you'd have asked me if i had minded, i'd have said yes i do most definitely mind!
Oh, and stop arse licking. It's a bit sad.

stands nervously next to outraged looking guilty

Just go to the loo, sit down, change him on your lap?

Absolutely no need to kneel on the floor of a toilet cubicle.

If you're sitting down on a train, it's as cramped to change the nappy on your knee there, surely?

I have a horrible feeling - 'people opposite' - that you changed your ds on the table in the carriage. Grim for everyone else in the carriage.

jo Do you truly think that people who change nappies outside of a toilet do so because they think other people want to see and smell their child's poo? I mean really, do you believe that?

I think you might be mistaken.

Changing a nappy will result in less smell than leaving it.
You will only see the poo if you specifically look.

My advice for dealing with this traumatic situation is;

don't look - this immediately solves the seeing shit problem.

try and look on the brightside re. the smell - it will smell for 30 seconds during the change. If I didn't change it, it would continue to smell for much longer.

enjoy the silence - a clean baby is a happy baby, a happy baby is a quiet baby. A baby with a sore, shitty bum is a noisy baby.

Don't take it personally Visualise, Whistle is very cross. I think because she's racking her brains for a time she was harmed by a nappy change and just cannot think of one

whistle - as you're busy having a go at Outraged and having a go at "arselickers" you obviously won't have noticed how obnoxious you've came across on this thread. But I'd rather be sat next to a minger smelling of baby shit any day.....

Christ, what is wrong with you people? Shit belongs in the bathroom!

Change your baby on the floor of the bathroom if you have to - surely you carry a fold up changing mat with you?

There is absolutely no need to do it in a public place.

If I were one of those spreadsheet types, I'd check to see how many of you public shitty nappy people are those who insist on a clean daily towel or won't sleep in sheets that someone has slept in for one night :o

'There is absolutely no need to do it in a public place.'

What about the changing table in a public loo? Is that ok?

A lady in my restaurant didn't want to wait for the changing facilities to become available so d decided to change her dc nappy at the table. She then couldn't be bothered to put said nappy in the bin so left it on her side plate and continued to eat her meal. No hand washing. On her way out decided to drop soiled nappy in one of my bloody pot plants! I did ask her back in to remove nappy and politely explain that in future we would like her to show a little consideration for other guests. I do think we become desensitised. If there are no other facilities I have no problem with a quick discreet change, but the refusal to go out of your way to find somewhere suitable when it is available is beyond me. If I need the loo I find a toilet, or wait until I can find one, why is it different with a nappy? Genuinely can't understand, but then again ds has some godawful stinky nappies that I couldn't possibly inflict on the general public.

That's outrageous even by my minging standards!

Great ryan. You can absorb all the shitty nappie smells from the selfish fuckers who wont change their babies, toddlers, 6 year olds, whatever,- in an approrpriate place, while i drink coffee, read my kindle, listen to my ipod, or do whatever takes my fancy

I said 'shit belongs in the bathroom'. Obviously I didn't include the bathroom when I was talking about a public place. Don't be disingenuous.

It's foul to change your child's shitty nappy in public and there's no excuse. It's just lazy and revolting

Sorry, for the benefit of Outraged and other people hard of understanding, 'in public' in that post means 'outside of the lavatory facilities'

I can top trump changing a shitty nappy in public. Today I couldn't use the lift in Primark because someone had just done a steaming shit in it!

I don't like people changing nappies in public because they can't wash their hands after.

'It's foul to change your child's shitty nappy in public and there's no excuse. It's just lazy and revolting'

but it's not foul if that place is in a public toilet? That's ok because....poo germs can't get you if you're in a toilet? Or do you mean only in a cubicle, not on the changing table (which is often in the public, handwashing, queuing area)? Why exactly is glimpsing shit less disgusting in a toilet environment? Should we have changing tables in each cubicle?

It's a toilet. It's for poo.

Seriously, this confuses you?

You'll be able to tell next time you're in a public toilet, because the walls won't be lined with bookcases.

The actual toilet is for poo, sure, but the rest of the room I mean? If someone pooed in the sink, that wouldn't be ok would it? The whole room isn't for poo is it? So should we only have changing tables in the actual cubicle? That's my question.

Goodness, you are really struggling with this, aren’t you Outraged?!

You know, people don't come to actual harm when you don't say 'please' and 'thank you', either.

But not saying those words when it's appropriate doesn't exactly endear you to people. It's called basic manners.

It's the same principal here, but apply it tenfold. :)

Stop banging on about the mystical, ethereal "baby poo". It's just poo. And whether or not you don't really mind it aren't I controversial - I don't even mind POO!! is besides the point.

So you'd never be able to clean an adults bottom - some of us have to do so for the ones we love - but you won't catch us doing it in public.

It is not discreet. I never understand people who say it is - it is not - it smells and involves undressing a baby. People notice. People look. It's not their fault for staring because you are a minger. Don't be a minger and they won't stare but perhaps you just like the attention

Clean your child in the toilet, just like everyone else does. Your baby (and it's anus) is nothing special

'Goodness, you are really struggling with this, aren’t you Outraged?!'

Yes really. I just cannot see the terrible problem with it!

The problems seem to be;

you'll get shit on your hands - No I won't and any residual germs will be caught in the wiping and antibacterial gel application process.

I might see the poo - I put the baby in the corner, head first, then kneel in front. The time between opening the nappy and wrapping it is about 5 seconds. So, no, unless you're really looking you won't see the poo.

I might smell the poo - Well, yes, but you'll smell it if I leave it in the nappy. The smell is from the poo, not the changing. The poo is done and cannot be undone. The quickest way to get rid of the smell is to change the nappy and wrap it in a bag.

The baby will be upset about lack of privacy - They won't. If I thought they were I wouldn't do it. If I was changing a child old enough or self-aware enough to be embarrassed I wouldn't do it.

They're all very minor or non-problems. We all seem to be in agreement that it doesn't actually do any harm. So, yes, I'm really struggling to see the massive problem with it. Is it ideal? No. If there are accessible toilets would I use them? Yes. If there aren't will I continue to do it in a quiet corner? Yes.

As far as I can see from this thread everyone is upset because they know they should be upset, but can't really give a reason why (other than listing more extreme examples e.g. in a restaurant/in a busy thoroughfare etc. which is a different issue).

And just to add, I'm a nanny so not all these nappies are my own DC, it's not to do with any belief on my part that there is anything special about the baby, it's anus or it's poo.

Sorry, but I think this is a total non issue, and I would have felt exactly the same way before I had children.