to think that you should not lie your baby down on her changing mat and change her nappy on the floor in the middle of a crowded exhibition hall?

[Mintyy]

I expect I'll get some yanbus as I've seen people attempting to justify changing nappies in restaurants and libraries before now.

But, it's just really not on, is it?

Friends used to get all panicked and embarrassed

I wonder why

YANBU. I think some of you have been waaaaaay to desensitised to public nappy changes. If it really is desperate times then, of course I wouldn't want a baby to be left to get sore but this person was lazy if they couldn't be bothered to seek out a changing place. That is just plain selfish, as if changing your child in a café.

I think large public spaces like, for example, exhibition halls should provide baby changing facilities (along with public toilets, disabled toilets etc) as a matter of course.

If they do - these should be used.

If they don't, then I think changing your baby on the floor is a good way of making the point that they need to rethink their provision.

I know 1 SAHD who quite often had to change his lo on the floor of department stores etc because all the baby changing facilities were in the women's toilets. This was a few years ago now. Now I think it's generally accepted that men sometimes look after babies too.

Quite frankly, who cares. If you gotta change a nappy and there ain't no other option, go do it. What if your baby has a reaction to a pee or poo nappy? Do you let the little one scream? I don't think so.

"Quite frankly who cares"

Have you read the thread Husbandplus3?

I'd say there are maybe 50 posters on here who do care! Its the attitude that "its more convenient for me to change my baby wherever I feel like it" that I was questioning.

My op wasn't about changing in a park, or on a train, or in a cafe, or changing anywhere where there aren't any facilities, it was about changing a nappy on the floor of Olympia, one of the biggest public venues in London, which would have had several toilets with changing facilities.

I couldn't get overly bothered by something like this tbh.

Yanbu. It's pretty vile.

YANBU, it is not something to be done n public, it is disgusting and obviously does smell and I can't believe some posters have so little regard for other people around them. You go to changing facilities or toilets. Failing that, slope off somewhere private away from the crowds.

I saw a nappy being changed out in a Wetherspoons once, it was rank.

I once complained in a well known chain restauant when a woman started changing a baby at the next table literally under my nose when i was eating. Unfuckingbelievable the stench was awful.

i wasn't the only one complaining either, but she didn't care one jot. The manager asked her to leave in the end.

Whistle glad the manager did!how do people think if is acceptable?

It not if

I don't see the issue? Must be just me.

Some people are disgusting. It's ridiculous that there needs to be laws banning people from such vile and disrespectful public behaviour but there should be, anyone doing that should be hit with a massive fine. If someone changes it in an area which serves food (which I had the horror to witness recently), there should be a criminal prosecution for endangering public health with jail time on top of a massive fine. Filthy people

Lol, not about me then... And no, on the dirty ass floor of the Olympia is another matter altogether but is still think your vehemence about it is intriguing.

Just to clarify, I changed ds out of the way on the school stage behind my table at a nearly new sale (although I still think some of you judgey mcjudgeypants would probably pick a hole)

I honestly don't understand the horror of glimpsing baby poo for 5 seconds. Don't look! Unless you're really looking you're not actually going to see anything. The smell of changing it is going to be less than leaving the child in a poo-filled nappy. If there are toilets readily available, people should use them, but if not it really doesn't matter.

Apart from chafing from your judgypants and possible pearl breakage from all the clutching has anyone actually been harmed by witnessing a baby being changed?

I feel like some of you have lost perspective because you're so used to nappy changes. If nothing else, it is very undignified for the child - no matter how old they are, they deserve dignity and privacy.

It's selfish to change your child wherever you fancy simply because you can't be bothered to find somewhere else. Obviously if there really is nowhere else, then by all means, go for it....but for some of the above stories, people just couldn't be bothered to make the effort to open their eyes.

Do you honestly think a baby is worrying about their lack of dignity because they're being changed on the floor of an exhibition centre instead of the floor of a toilet? Really?

If you have an older child in nappies I'm sure it's different. I'm talking under 2's. I've never met one who was self-conscious enough to worry about where they were having their nappy changed.

I think some people are a bit put out because this is where people get a chance to tell them how grim they are.

They need to come out and accuse people of being all 'judgy' and 'pearl-clutchy' as if this is somehow going to offend us...?!

Um, no, it's not. It's not 'judgy' to find human shit unacceptable. Call me it if it makes you feel better, but please know that most people simply think you're grim and, bottom line, just pretty damn lazy. If you don't like it, then take your child elsewhere to be changed.

I don't think anyone on mumsnet is going to find 'judgy' or 'pearl clutchy' offensive . We're a nest of vipers remember?

'It's not 'judgy' to find human shit unacceptable'

Just in general?! It's ok in the toilet right? And in a nappy? And wrapped up in a nappy bag in the bin? It's just the 5 seconds between being in the nappy and being in the nappy bag that's unacceptable? Unless you're in a public toilet where the smell is fine, the health risks are eliminated and the child's dignity is no longer a concern?

Unacceptable in the exact same way it would be unacceptable for you to back one out in an auditorium or cafe, complete with audience. :)

The stink??? It smells no matter if the nappy is still on or just being changed and seconds after its bagged so stops smelling.

The only difference is if you see it you know which child it is that whiffs