to wonder how good heroin must feel

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I've tried lots of recreational drugs over the years, but never heroin
But what is it about the 'hit' heroin gives you that makes you want it again... and again...

It must feel amazing taking herion floating on cloud nine springs to mind and I would imagine that is how it feels but I still don't like smackheads

If I ever get diagnosed with a terminal illness I am 100% getting seriously fucking smashed on heroin.

Easy to do - they will give it to you in Hospital

Dad had terminal cancer and took Oramorph. Said it was lovely stuff. He did rather wander off mentally during conversations when he'd just had some though

I would have sold my granny down the river for another hit of the Pethadine I had in labour. It was quite wonderful for a few moments.

I quite like the idea of waiting until I know I'm about to pop my clogs and then giving the hard stuff a go :o.

It doesn't feel amazing, crack feels amazing heroin is calm and warm, like athe best bath in the world but that bath loves you as well as warms you.

It is a myth held onto that you chase that first hit. Not true. some people have a great first experience. Some have their heads down the loo for five hours. Some nod. Some get quite hyper. Some have incredible hits several months/years after first using. Some don't. Some can take it or leave it whereas others have a compulsion to re use very quickly.

Different opiates give different feelings. Diconal gives a terrific cramping buzz that some users adore and some hate.
Morphine Hydrochloride (jacks) are loved by some, not by others.
Palfium (a synthetic opiate) is liked because it lasts a long time but it is easy to OD on it.
Pethidine can be disliked because it has less euphoric effects for most users accustomed to Dia and street heroin (brown or white).
Diamorphine is pharmeceutical grade Heroin. Street Heroin may be cut with other drugs. Some users like the hit from the cut stuff whereas others prefer clean.
MST's used to have their coating scraped off and then the insides were injected. Messy and dangerous.
Physeptone tends to be less euphoric. It has a longer half life so takes longer to break down and wear off which is why it was PX to Addicts. Unfortunately this makes it harder to wean oneself from although I do not subscribe to the school of abstinence as the only treatment. Every user differs.

Show my DH took Diazepam a couple of hours ago for his back and hasn't felt a thing.

He must be hard as fuck

The only 2 heroin addicts I knew were very successful and wealthy. For one of them, during rehab he realized that his 6 figure salaried job was part of the problem. He quit once he got out and the company had paid the medical insurance that covered his treatment and began working as an odd job man in our small town.

Stumps, that sounds like the most amazing holiday.. Three days of laughing and sleeping. How much do you want for them? I can pick them up in half an hour.

Diazepam is a different family, not an opiate

Some similarities in how it acts in the brain though - ups the dopamine. Heroin addicts often use benzodiazepines as they come off heroin.

Diazepam is massively addictive! Not one to messed with and pretty terrible the way so many 'respectable' people (who would NEVER 'do drugs') think it's ok to keep in taking prescribed Valium left over after an bad back or something. News flash, that IS 'doing drugs'.

As a country we need a much more open and honest debate about drugs (including alcohol and Tabasco) and the relative levels of harm associated with each.

Personally I think we should decriminalise all drugs and have then sold from government run shops and be taxed. And have some decent studies into the long term negative effects.

Benzo's don't stop the withdrawal symptoms. They prop the user up through them.

When you have a pre-med in hospital before an operation, what drug is that? That was lovely.

including alcohol and Tabasco

Tabaco, obviously.

Although adding Tabasco to ones food can be quite addictive ;-)

Benzo's don't stop the withdrawal symptoms. They prop the user up through them

Agreed. Doesn't do anything for the physical withdrawal but helps the psychological side.

We should definitely decriminalise Tabasco!

Sneezing is one of the more annoying early onset signs of opiate withdrawal.

Has anybody noticed how tiny babies can sneeze when they look at bright light?

Well i had a patient who had to be sedated because of continual sneezing. It lasted for twenty six hours and he became clinically exhausted. Similar phenomena. Bizarre.

I got briefly excited there about the potential hallucinogenic properties of that bottle of Tabasco Sauce I have lurking :o

Meh, morphine is ok but not amazing, for me at least. Certainly not anything orgasmic at all, a very gentle high, less high than having Ds that's for sure... I was soooo euphoric then and twas natural!

I take it for pain and I dont get any of the lovely effects talked about which is a damned shame as I could do with getting lost for a while. However I do get physical withdrawal effects of I dont take it even for an hour or two after when I should. Worries me alot, it's like nothing on earth...

I sneeze at bright lights.

Also when I'm hungry.

Has anybody noticed how tiny babies can sneeze when they look at bright light?

Not just babies! I'm a photic sneezer. Wiki says it's common at 18% to. 35 % of the population have it. 67% of those who sneeze in response to change in light are female.

At risk of derailing the thread, MDMA, seriously, should be available to buy. Few long term harmful effects and a shit load of fun. Apparently. Obviously I've never taken any illigal drugs. Ever.

Government policy (MDMA 'ingredients' being very difficult to get hold of in uk) are leading to people dying after ingesting PMA which much higher toxicity, longer lead time for effects and is being mid-sold as MDMA. 20 people would be alive (2012 alone) if they had been able to buy MDMA.

but those doing street drugs generally don't just take heroin - it's all crack cocaine etc so lots of highs etc - my friend who was a reformed heroin addict and sadly went back to it said after a while they take heroin to be normal and other drugs for the highs.

Polydrug use has many different forms - some users have one primary drug of addiction and use other drugs to cope w/ an absence of the drug of choice. Others use different drugs for different effects or different needs. Others combine drugs to get new experiences.

Polydrug use when chaotic is very risky.

Thing is w/ Heroin addiction is that you have to have it to function at all once you have a physiological addiction (tolerance) although you can still get great pleasure from it if the dose is adequately high. Whereas w/ cocaine and amphetamines, you can function physically without them but you will feel tired, emotionally unstable and crave them.

However people w/ long term heroin habits can and do still experience great highs from it. They can have a good hit because it is pure or they are in the right frame of mind etc etc. It is a myth that you never get that high again and spend the rest of the time either chasing it or just using to feel normal. You need a baseline dose to feel 'normal' but that is not the end of it.

I don't think it agrees with me as when I had diamorphine in hospital I literally could not stop vomiting for 48hrs so that alone would put me off. I have tried ecstasy though and took it almost every weekend from aged 18-20 and that stuff is nice. Not addictive either.

It makes you feel like your in love with everybody and everything, no care in the world. The last time I took it it nearly killed me though. I ended up on life support. Luckily I pulled through with no lasting damage. I've never touched any recreational drug since. I never will. It was a harsh lesson and something my family will always remember after they were called in and told that if I pulled through, I'd be a vegetable. I don't need to tell you how dangerous drugs can be.

This thread is so sad. "Like you'd imagine a mum's hug to be." WTAF?!
Comparing being off your head to a mum's hug is just.... wrong. Same with being wrapped in a warm blanket.
An actual blanket would be preferable to losing all sense of identity and your life.
Something seriously wrong somewhere in heads if comparing it to those.

pethedine is shit. It doesn't remove the pain just gags you from complaining about it.

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People were describing how it feels, and it does feel like that. When you take a drug like that that's how it feels. No-one is saying being a heroine addict feels like that, they're talking about what the drug feels like for the first time.

Nothing wrong with anyone's heads