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to wonder how good heroin must feel

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complexnumber · 07/11/2013 19:26

I've tried lots of recreational drugs over the years, but never heroin
But what is it about the 'hit' heroin gives you that makes you want it again... and again...

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ImaginativeNewName · 07/11/2013 19:58

I actually think I got a high off a Beechams "night" tablet once. I felt so marvellous and floaty. Grin

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LadyBeagleEyes · 07/11/2013 19:59

As a former addict, out2lunch has got it spot on.

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DanglingChillis · 07/11/2013 20:00

Lots of doctors are addicted to morphine apparently. A friend says it's a wonder drug (from the prescribing viewpoint), so good at dealing with pain with very few side effects.

I had pethidine with DD1 and hated it, it did nothing but make me feel too drunk and ill and out of control. Gas and air I could happily have a cannister at home to abuse, loved it, it was that lovely glass of wine level of relaxed (I'm a lightweight). Was most disappointed that DS came so quick I only got a couple of puffs (with DD2 I had so much I lost the feeling in my cheeks).

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CharlotteBronteSaurus · 07/11/2013 20:01

i had diamorphine when in labour with dd2, and realised I had found the drug for me.
it was ace. not a buzz as such, just a lovely warm fuzzy feeling, no lack of control or feeling out of it (like you get with with acid gas and air), and a feeling that even though the pain was still there, it just didn't matter anymore.

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HorraceTheOtter · 07/11/2013 20:02

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imip · 07/11/2013 20:02

I've had morphine a few times after surgery. As above, it is a very controlled dose, made me feel good and sleepy.

I was offered 'heroin' by an ob while labouring with my daughter who had just died from a cord prolapse. Refused as I wanted to remember the experience, didnt want to have my consciousness affected.

In my youth, I used to take smacky or speedy pills. With a smacky pill I wanted hard core trance music, nice housy music with sleepy pills.

While having a cervical stitch inserted, I was given ketamine by the surgeon to knock me out. Most horrendous experience ever. Terrible. I had taken a bit of k recreationally in the 'old' days, I felt likemy legs were rooted to the ground and didnt like it much. When in hosp, a couple of drs were fascinated and wanted to hear what the ketamine experience was like.

I haven't taken drugs recreationally for about 10 years. Towards the end I would just vomit. Even taking codine post c section reduced me to a vomiting mess!

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ImaginativeNewName · 07/11/2013 20:03

My father had awful dreams on morphine after a back operation Chicken. I remember seeing him terrified in his hospital bed thinking werewolves were trying to get into the hospital. Grin

And he then got addicted to Valium after the operation and had to be weaned off it, so not an overall great prescription - drugs experience for him.


A friend of mine takes morphine quite regularly for chronic pain and by the sounds of it, she could be setting herself up for some unpleasantness. She admitted she thinks the doctor only gives it to her because she asks for it and to fob her off because they can't find out exactly what is wrong with her.

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IamInvisible · 07/11/2013 20:03

It's all well and good saying it's like X or it's like Y, but the real answer is until you take it you don't know how it is for you!

I was given morphine, after an operation fortunately, and it sent me into respiratory distress. Luckily I had all the nurses and doctors around m, because had I have been at home never mind about feeling like being sat on a cloud, chances are I could have been sat on a bloody cloud!

I hate all opiates, they make me feel rotten. I don't understand how anyone becomes addicted to them because I don't get a nice feeling at all.

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complexnumber · 07/11/2013 20:04

I used to try speed (drop whizz) in the 70's.

It was incredibly addictive!!!

The come down seemed to tell you over and over again: "Have another and you'll feel fine"

This was while I was doing my A' levels.

Well done to those of you who are now clean.

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Orangeanddemons · 07/11/2013 20:06

Have I missed something with morphine? I found it made me sleepy, very very itchy, and not much use against pain. I certainly never felt warm/safe/ or any of the other orgasmic feelings. Just, well, a bit sleepy

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Geckos48 · 07/11/2013 20:09

Morphine is not the same as diamorphine, morphine has been synthesised to give you less of the 'buzz' and more of the pain relief, like novacaine has been synthesised from cocaine to give you more of the numbing and less of the buzz.

There is a huge difference between morphine and diamorphine

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Geckos48 · 07/11/2013 20:11

Heroin is not addictive on the first 'hit'

So if you have it short term, like in labour, there is little risk to you becoming addicted. It's when you have a supply of it and take it recreationally that you get addicted (same with most drugs). Crack and ketamine are two of the most addictive and many people take them recreationally, like once or twice a year...

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treaclesoda · 07/11/2013 20:12

I had diamorphine for pain relief in hospital once (not in labour though) and it was the most pleasurable experience of my life, by some distance. It started with a fuzzy feeling in my toes, then it spread up my body and the fizzing sensation that I felt as it worked its way across my scalp was just amazing. But most of all, it took away the pain that minutes earlier had me writhing in the bed and groaning and gasping for air, DH had to sit next to me for the next eight hours or so whilst I cooed 'this is amazing. A-mazing'. I don't think he enjoyed it as much as I did Grin

Having said that, I'd imagine it would never feel as good if I had it again.

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flyingspaghettimonster · 07/11/2013 20:12

Oxycodone and Percocet are wonderful... I would happily live my life addicted. It gives me a warm fuzzy glow of well being and love to my family that I struggle to have naturally. It is like suddenly being the Virgin Mary in an old painting with the golden light all around, a beautific smile and a child to adore... I actually saved a few pills for my birthday as a treat.

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Branleuse · 07/11/2013 20:13

Ive had methodone, which is the synthetic version prescribed to addicts. It was bloody lovely. I felt calm, blissed out.
It was very nice, but I wouldnt take it again. I may be stupid, but not that stupid.


My mum told me that she had a terrible experience when someone gave her heroin instead of speed when she was younger, and she just couldnt stop vomiting.

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Weegiemum · 07/11/2013 20:14

I had diamorphine (medical heroin) for kidney stones.

If the pain goes away, the drug is still in your system, it feels awful.

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Geckos48 · 07/11/2013 20:14

Flying spaghetti - noted ;)

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NotGoodNotBad · 07/11/2013 20:15

I tried heroin once. Well, maybe three or four times... Yes, it was good, but not so amazing I'd risk getting addicted, and I didn't feel any desperate need to take it over and over.

The boyfriend I got it from was addicted, on and off (he would give up the drugs now and then), but then he was addicted to every substance there is (not all at once, thank goodness). Literally couldn't get out of bed without a couple of coffees, couldn't sleep without a cigarette, would rather have alcohol or drugs than food.

The whole thing got me wondering about addictive personalities, and whether some people are more prone than others to needing extra chemicals in their bodies, either physically or psychologically.

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Geckos48 · 07/11/2013 20:19

notgood I think you're right. I have met people get addicted to anything but I've always been able to quick anything I've picked up, even cigarettes which people say are notorious bad.

DH is a different story though, has to swap something for something else.

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Lazysuzanne · 07/11/2013 20:19

I thought the addictiveness was partly to do with the fact that we mave endogenous opiates (ie endorphines) which our bodies stop producing if we use exogenous opiates.
That then means that if we stop taking the opiates there is an unpleasant gap (ie withdrawal) where we have no opiates until we start producing our own again.

It's prob more complex but I think thats the gist of it?

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makemineabacardi · 07/11/2013 20:21

So pethadine isnt similar to heroin? I had it while in labour and Ive never felt so afraid in all my life, curled up into a ball, couldnt verbalise how scared I was and just screamed through contractions as I felt out of control with pain. Didnt help a jot.

If thats what pethadine does to me Id hate to try heroin.

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SunshineSuperNova · 07/11/2013 20:22

I've had morphine after operations and I hate it. It makes me sick and sleepy, and I have hideous nightmares.

My best mate was addicted to heroin. She went from 'recreational' use to injecting and became addicted to crack cocaine as well before she died. I've known a few acquaintances die of overdoses. I wouldn't a heroin addiction on my worst enemy.

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WeileWeileWaile · 07/11/2013 20:22

In Uni, when we had a lecture about substance misuse/overdosing the nurse told us that heroin itself wasn't that hard to withdraw from, but the disassociation it provided was - ie, addicts weren't able to cope with problems/troubles/withdrawal symptoms without heroin rather than the drug itself being physically hard to wean off from.

How does that work then? My only experience is through watching things like Trainspotting and I have to say - it didn't look easy to me Confused

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Geckos48 · 07/11/2013 20:22

No pethadine is very different to heroin.

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Geckos48 · 07/11/2013 20:24

If you are a well fed, well housed heroin addict, then the damage to the body is minor.

Problem is that the love of the drug takes over the natural want for food etc so it messes everything up.

Lots of people are addicted to heroin, we only hear about the 'junkies' though.

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