to wonder how good heroin must feel

[complexnumber]

I've tried lots of recreational drugs over the years, but never heroin
But what is it about the 'hit' heroin gives you that makes you want it again... and again...

[LadyMetroland]

So sorry about your daughter imip

[Brices]

I love the idea of a golden halo like the Virgin Mary!
I have a few gabapentin squirrelled away, certainly easier to get on with my two year old when taking them.
Only thing with oxycodone be the antiemetic I'd have to take, I presume.

Anybody been tempted by ayahuasca?

[Drgonzosattorney]

I have often wondered what certain drugs must be like but I have an addictive personality(i believe that it is possible, genetic etc.) so I have to watch with the old vino and alas filthy ciggies. I know that if I tried something hard then I'd be hooked.

[JennySense]

I tried to negotiate keeping my morphine drip with the nurse. Thank fuck I've never had access to heroin.

[BerstieSpotts]

I was told, although not sure if this is bollocks, that the feeling of being on heroin is actually a part of your brain dying, and hence you can never ever get the same level of high because that part of your brain is gone forever.

It sounds bollocks now I think about it

[FreeWee]

I had pethidine and it didn't even touch the sides (well my DH said it made me bearable but I think that's cos I micronapped between contractions) I had liquid morphine after the c-section and it was luuuuurvely. Wrapped in cotton wool, taking the edge off life. I think I have a very addictive personality and lots of my family have various addictions. I've been called boring for not trying lots of things fags, drugs etc but I bet I'll like them, so I don't take them. I love Nurofen with codeine so avoid it as I'd could easily get addicted. I think I'd like heroin so definitely won't be trying it - unless I'm given weeks to live and then I'd try everything!

[goodmum123]

My brother has been a heroin addict for 15 years we think. He's
lost most of his teeth, speaks with a slur, falls asleep all time, has marks all over him from injecting, has infections all the time where his body bloats up, look appalling, doesn't wash, has lost all self respect, has caused the worst distress to the family ever imaginable. All because he wondered what it would be like once after saying weed was not enough. It has ruined his life, he now is taking methadone but I never can tell what he's really doing as he's a liar too, so sad and a tragedy for my parents and those that love him.

[StarlightMcKenzie]

I had pethedine IV Did nothing at all.

When I had a peptic ulcer, I went to the GP twice, then out of hours, then A&E, upgrading my pain relief as I went and eventually got some fuck off drugs that after taking JUST once I developed a fantasy about and kept a stash of unused ones for recreational use.

I fell pregnant and Breastfed and they went way over date and I kind of got over it, but I learned a little about how powerful addiction must be.

[Brices]

Ayahausca comes to mind as addiction expert Dr Gabor Mate has talked of its use as "spiritual" trip to aid heroin users.
Guess I'll live the rock n roll lifestyle and pour myself a glass of wine. This thread brings back happy memories though

[MimsyBorogroves]

I've been addicted to codeine. I love the stuff. If it's that feeling multiplied, I would probably adore it.

I've also had morphine and hated it. It gave me a massive panic attack, I could see the world melting around me and hear voices telling me to die. I ended up strapped onto the hospital bed having rather a lot of oxygen. I was told it was possibly a reaction to the anti emetic I had at the same time, but no-one can tell me for certain, so I'd never have it again just in case.

[BlingBang]

See this is making me want to try it. Never really done drugs but would be good to safely try some just once. That doesn't happen so I'll just stay clear and stick to booze which is bad enough. Always worried I might have an addictive personality and would be too scared to got there.

[Mintyy]

Heroin doesn't give a high. After the first couple of times (when it usually induces nausea to some degree) it gives a relaxed, safe, "no worries" feeling. Lou Reed's Perfect Day is widely believed to be an ode to.

Not nearly as entertaining as LSD .

[ShowOfBloodyStumps]

I had diamorphine in childbirth. I didn't feel remotely spaced out. I felt very tired, had a few problems with my bp and then ended up with the itch to end all itches. I wanted to scratch off my face to get to it. I was given something to 'undo' the diamorphine effects as it did nothing positive.

I couldn't ever try it. I've never even tried a cigarette/alcohol. I have too much fear. If I even overcame my natural resistance to anything out of my control and injected/took a drug, I'd end up convinced I was going to die and self presenting at A&E. I don't want to be floating on a cloud of loveliness and calm. I'm quite happy in my slightly uptight, scared to lose control, sharp edged bubble. I am SO dull.

[gertrudetrain]

I've tried most drugs, I had a whole world of shit to deal with in my early 20's. Lots of drugs are much of a muchness. They remove reality, which for some is an excellent thing. I think this is more important to users than the high and us what keeps the momentum of addiction going. Not having to think and cope is lovely when you are sick if thinking and coping.

[Geckos48]

goodmum sounds like heroin or crystal meth :(

[lifesgreatquestions]

Ah, Lou! I've led a very responsible life. My plan is to try everything when I'm old. Including getting a mohican. And I want to smoke lots of dope too.

[EeyoreIsh]

hmm. I felt really sick when I came around after an op, and my dsis is allergic to opiates and I suspect I'm the same. I hate getting drunk and feeling out of control so I suspect I'd hate heroin.

[ShowOfBloodyStumps]

DH has some diazepam which I'm returning to the pharmacy tomorrow if anybody wants them. He took some recently after putting his back out. Honest to God he sat and laughed at some margarine for an hour. He had tiny little pinprick pupils, giggled a lot and then passed out. He is such a cheap date. He slept for about 20 hours out of every 24 for 3 days and woke only to laugh hysterically and wee.

[Abra1d]

'I've sometimes thought that if I was given x months to live, and it was definitely terminal so not worth treating but wasn't going to be immediately debilitating, I'd spend the period I was still well and upright taking as many hard drugs as possible.'

This is what they used to give people who were terminally ill--it was called a Brompton cocktail.

Made from morphine or diacetylmorphine (heroin), cocaine, ethyl alcohol (some recipes specify gin), and sometimes with chlorpromazine (Thorazine) to counteract nausea,

[Thecircle]

My best friend from childhood became addicted to heroin at 14 years old.

She died aged 21 whilst 6 months pregnant. She was clean of heroin when she died and was taking only what she was prescribed. Sadly she died of blood poisoning, probably due to infection from an injecting site.

I tried for years to get her to stop, as did her family. I saw her go cold turkey. It's the most horrifying sight I've ever ever seen. To see a beautiful, intelligent girl reduced to what she was.

I could never understand why she couldn't just say no. I suppose I still can't almost ten years on. The fact that she said was able to stop with medical help for her baby was the only comfort we could take from her death.

Was she honestly always chasing that first high? It's tragic and very hard to understand

[Geckos48]

Diazepam is a different family, not an opiate.

[PenguinDancer]

Good enough to leave me and my son so I'm told.

[whois]

Heroin is so dangerous because it is physically addictive as well as psychologically addictive.

Most recreational drugs are just psychologically addictive.

The drug itself is actually quite clean, and one can be a productive and functioning member of society while addicted. Indeed many great creatives were addicted to heroin. Unfortunately it's the criminal lifestyle associated with the drug now that is damaging to users. And the impurities it's cut with.

If I ever get diagnosed with a terminal illness I am 100% getting seriously fucking smashed on heroin.

[Crowler]

Penguin, sorry to hear that.

I understand it to be so delightful that I'm intrigued and repelled in equal measure. I would not try it. I did quite a lot of "experimentation" in my 20's and that was fun but nothing I couldn't do without.

[MuffCakes]

I have tried heroin a few times, never injected but had the odd couple of lines when I was a teenager.

It is just this warm safe feeling of everythings ok, like you would imagine a mums hug to be.