to be concerned re. what is going on re. immigration and population growth?

[ClarityJane]

So many non-English voices, especially East Europeans, but so many different nationalities en masse it seems have moved here in the last 10-20 years - completely unprecedented historically. And in an already very over-crowded island.

Today I read Labour MP Frank Field say that the population increase due to immigration by 2031, i.e. less than 20 years, will be approximately 10 million and will require building something like seven new Birminghams! Or another London! Based on latest predictions in the papers today anyway.

Did Blair and Mandelson envisage this when they signed up for European Community rules on immigration and refugees? Or did they cynically not care because it meant cheap labour, cheap votes, increased profits (via membership of the European Community).

Did the architects of this policy not consider how it would affect housing, jobs and education and the resulting massive investment needed there, and the over-crowded population we have already.

I believe we have never been consulted or told anything honestly about what the consequences of EC membership was immigration-wise, if indeed there was ever any plan (doesn't seem to be, just a kind of opportunistic carpetbaggers philosophy approach of selling England by the pound).

I feel deceived and hoodwinked really. But are there any more positive thoughts on this? I find it v. depressing.

and we don't live in a council house

They've said they're looking at it.

How do you know they are Immigrants? Or have they specifically told you? Or are you just assuming so because they speak another language? Also Council Tax Benefit isn't around anymore neither.

mylovelyboy what has their nationality got to do with it? I've got plenty of people living near me who are English (long line) who are exactly the same as you've spoken about and their version of the english language is pretty crap too!

and we don't claim benefits

and we pay lots of tax

Totally agree with you about the workshy English. They are an utter disgrace. I get pissed off paying for them. I equally get pissed off paying for those that are not English as well. Dont you? Or are you happy to pay for their benefits out of your hard earned salary.

mylovelyboy your English isn't too great either...

and worst still, we all look a little bit foreign

Gordy you twat, I made up twatbadger, not you. You must have stolen it from me. Twat.

(Said in the nicest possible way, obviously.)

ah mylovelyboy you'll love this, but

I'm on benefits! I don't have a hard earned salary at present.

So now what? Going to jump to huge conclusions about me and your taxes?

Usualsuspect. What about freedom of speech. I have not said anything out of turn. I have told you how it is. Or is it just one sided. ie Your Side

what is a twatbadger? i always thought it was wankbadger actually

Totally agree with you about the workshy English. They are an utter disgrace. I get pissed off paying for them. I equally get pissed off paying for those that are not English as well. Dont you? Or are you happy to pay for their benefits out of your hard earned salary

Well it depends what situation they're in. If it's genuinely because they're lazy shits (which a lot of the time it isn't despite what people like to believe) I do get annoyed but I don't differentiate between immigrants and nationals.

In fact a national doing it I would find more annoying because they've probably had far more opportunities and had it easier to access the help they need to get a job, whereas the family who have immigrated have had to battle language barriers, prejudice etc.

Seriously, how long does it take to look at a thread and ponder the merits of deleting it.

You say we should report things. We report them. You say you're looking at it. The thread remains unchanged. What do we need to do?

and this will really up set you OP, I employ ENGLISH people to work for me.

How disgraceful!

(Wishes there was an icon showing a mixed race immigrant pulling her pants down mooning whilst flipping the bird)

If they are All from Pakistan. Then as I believe it they aren't entitled to benefits. That No recourse thing I mentioned earlier.

Wankbadger's good. But I also like twatbadger. But which is best? There's only one way to find out!

Little people, I suppose its easy to make some kind of ironic joke out of it. Its a maligned term, I suppose. But yes I certainly do consider myself one of the Little People in the sense of being ordinary and fairly powerless. I also do feel ordinary English or British people have been left behind and maligned/ignored in favour of supposedly higher political ideals (financial speculation, political correctness, whatever). So, I don't feel any shame in including myself in that description. Unless you are a member of the ruling elite, really you are one of the little people!

Heartbrokenmum73 - I have been on benefits for a period of time in the past. Not for long though. I would more than be happy to contribute towards yours. But when people come to this country and it gets given out like sweets then no.

Figghhhhhhhhttt!!!!