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Why do you think behaviour in schools is so much worse than even 10 yrs ago.

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soul2000 · 03/10/2013 18:22

This is not a joke thread. I am generally interested as to how much the standard of behaviour has deteriated in the last 25 years since i left school.

What amazes me, is that teachers are not shocked when watching programes like educating yorkshire, that just shows how bad the behaviour of some pupils is.

Another shocking thing is that pupils who in my time would have been labeled a menace "ME INCLUDED" are now seen as upstanding pupils.

How has the standard fallen so far and what can be done to re address the balance.

This thread is in support of teachers.

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brambleandapple · 07/10/2013 22:37

Spinkle The school should be making individualised provision.

zower You need to read more of the thread....and others. It's amazing how I can feel quite flabbergasted by some posts on MN and then I find the back stories on other threads....

frumpet · 07/10/2013 22:38

My daughter has a child in her class with SN and challenging behaviour . The only reason i know this is because she gave me a run down of one of his meltdowns which including screaming and swearing at his very capable TA . He was removed from the class whilst the meltdown was in progress and returned once he was able to . I asked my daughter what she thought about this boy and she said she thinks he is nice and is sometimes very funny and makes her laugh ( not at , with IYSWIM) . So if my daughter can be tolerant of this child and his additional needs who am i to argue ?

Oh and if she never wants to hearing swearing , she really better leave home now !

NotDead · 07/10/2013 22:38

um all my teachers said behaviour/discipline was better 10 years ago..there's a bit of 'in my day' / golden days thinking. . mind you I love the 50s videos of whole-school playground stretching exercises :)

alemci · 07/10/2013 22:42

sprinkle don't put up with that, move away from child. that is not on health and safety etc.

Spinkle · 07/10/2013 22:42

Yeah, well he should have individualised learning but since we haven't yet got him into the classroom this year, will be tricky.

AnaisHendricks · 07/10/2013 22:43

frumpet Grin

DS is very rule-bound and roars at us if we let a swear-word slip.

Thank fuck for Mumsnet.

Spinkle · 07/10/2013 22:43

He was laying into me as I walked away.

brambleandapple · 07/10/2013 22:45

Spinkle Does not sound like the school is meeting this child's needs. What has been upsetting him?

alemci · 07/10/2013 22:47

are you a teacher or ta sprinkle disgusting behaviour

zzzzz · 07/10/2013 22:48

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zower · 07/10/2013 22:48

fair point, should probably read whole thread, if i really applied myself it might be really illuminating. . but the bits i did read made me feel uneasy. Fwiw i am really sympathetic. I just dobt know how i felt about my son being told his mother wad a fucking cunt Grin, i mean my son took it on the chin. but if there was alot of disruption in the class would i be so sympathetic at least if it took alot of teacher's time and energy ...

PolterGoose · 07/10/2013 22:49

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brambleandapple · 07/10/2013 22:50

alemci you often have to put aside disgust if you actually want to solve any issues. Otherwise, if you can't do this you need to walk away.

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AnaisHendricks · 07/10/2013 22:53

SN parents? Confused

Frumpet, I agree with PolterGoose. Your DD could have described my son there. She sounds lovely, as do you.

I have an older NT child and her eyes have been opened by her brother. She is growing up with tolerance. It's so important.

alemci · 07/10/2013 22:54

exactly that is what sprinkle did. who wants to go to work to be hit. I just wouldn't tolerate it. if an adult did it to another person it would be assault so why should a child.

IsabelleRinging · 07/10/2013 22:54

Sounds more like the school is failing spinkle at the moment Grin.

brambleandapple · 07/10/2013 22:54

Spinkle The way you have described it, the school's actions actually sound like illegal short term exclusion..

zzzzz · 07/10/2013 23:00

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brambleandapple · 07/10/2013 23:00

alemci this is a child! Below the age of legal culpability, possibly, very likely, a very vulnerable child.

IsabelleRinging · 07/10/2013 23:04

Who said he had SN?

brambleandapple · 07/10/2013 23:09

isabella read my post. I said possibly, very likely, a very vulnerable child.

Anyway I'm off to bed.

IsabelleRinging · 07/10/2013 23:10

Was replying to zzzz actually.

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AnaisHendricks · 07/10/2013 23:24

I once taught a child in the first year of Junior School who had been allowed to play in Reception all throughout KS1, mornings only. For three years.

Nobody told me this until I had been dealing with him trying to cope with Yr 3 for a few weeks. SENCO assumed he had moved away Shock