To think teachers are actually better off than those in the private sector

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Please may I rephrase the debate in a more measured way)

Perhaps people do know about your grievances but simply don't agree.

Janey nice stirring.

Perhaps they do, Retro, like the op who started a thread claiming to want a debate and then fucks off.

Aaargh she's after me again lol

Marry I'm not striking. Students asked about the strike in form time and I explained what I knew, other students chipped in with what they knew. I said nothing about older teachers working but the whole class were in agreement that teaching is not something that people can do into their old age. There are many jobs which 68yr olds would not be able to do and some of those have been mentioned. It isn't ageist.

I'm not surprised she has going by some of the posts on here.

Sorry Mirry.

expecting to be paid for a spot of hose-waving & calendar posing

Retro,, no one had said that? strange. no one had said all teachers are great and all schools are great as that wouldn't actually make any sense would it?

Retro the OP's 2 threads on this topic have been full of nasty shit about teachers being unskilled whiners. She is not being bullied, just told that she's talking bollocks.

That's the thing though, Retro, she's gone because posters wouldn't put up with her immature crap.

You, yourself are posting nonsense about teachers saying every school is perfect, etc.

No. No-one has said that. Why can't people just discuss or debate without insulting, belittling or making wild assumptions about the teaching profession?

fireman!! huh working on their days off for cash in hand aye!

although I have one protest, the ones who brought the fire engine to our school fete were well a bit past their sell by date. I suppose the fit ones were modelling AGAIN bastards.

I was a teacher for years. I work in the charity sector now. I can't see anyone bullying, but I do see an OP talking utter rubbish and teachers defending their position.

The tone on here and as for the Bingo thread.

I don't see anything wrong with this thread as a response to the tone and content of the OP. You can of course report the bingo thread if you feel it breaches the site's T&Cs.

No I don't think it does(I gave up reading it) but the arrogance.

Well jellycake I hope you put them right on that then - that some 68 year olds will be very capable of teaching . how do you feel about people who have physical disabilities? Doyou think wheelchair users shouldn't/cant teach, or people with impaired vision? It really is important that young peole don't get a skewed view of what is possible and what will be possible in the future.
If we look back over the last 50-100 years there have been phenomomenal changes in what and how we learn and I think that we should be encouraging the younger generation to look forward to more enlightened times in terms what our whole society can contribute rather than encouraging them to believe that certain groups are not able to contribute

The whole thread(Bingo)belittling and taking the piss out of things that do happen and people post about in fecking education forums.

Retropear
Op can start any thread she likes.
Who has said that she can't?

It is possible to discuss,disagree like mature adults instead of a pack of spiteful teenagers.You never know both sides might learn something.

So your responses are all well reasoned and any that disagree with you are immature, or bullies?

Have it your way though- you're the most hard working,hard done by sector of society with the worse t&cs and every single one of you does an amazing job,works in an amazing school and doesn't need to improve or change what so ever.

The only people that have said any of that are those that are having a go at teachers.

No posters that engage in pack mentality,sarcasm and belittling are bullies.

Evident in some posts towards the op,not me,as I said.

Are you feeling deprived of sarcasm & belittling, Retrospear?

Sorry. We're on strike. You can have some on Wednesday.

posters that engage in pack mentality,sarcasm and belittling

And that is those posters having a pop at teachers, saying that they are unskilled, do an easy job, work 9-3 have long paid holidays, etc.

Not only are they misinformed but they are belittling and downright rude.

For all these 'debate' threads, there is a staggering lack of debate!