To think teachers are actually better off than those in the private sector

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Please may I rephrase the debate in a more measured way)

And the training days were taken from teachers' holidays in the first place.

I think an older teacher is a good idea they might know what they are doing by then and don't need any teacher training days

That would be good. Then teachers could have their holidays back which were taken to use as INSET days.

I think an older teacher is a good idea they might know what they are doing by then and don't need any teacher training days.

So says someone that does not understand.

But if this is true can I have the holidays that were taken for them back?

x post sooty

I've learnt something new then thanks to a teacher

I think it was very rude calling teachers unskilled.

I also think a bovine vet would to me be a freaking boring job.

opinions. don't post if you don't want to hear them.

Inset days began in 1988 so I'd have thought only those that signed contracts before then need anything given back.

Opinions are one thing,bullying another.

*Oh for goodness sake I was a teacher,my sister works in the charity sector,I have friends in all sorts of sectors.They all go that extra mile,change with the times and increase of expectations,frozen pay etc,etc.

Teachers don't have the monopoly*

Perhaps you could point us to the threads attacking charity workers and people in all sorts of sectors. Then we can wade in and contribute.

I'm a teacher who works for social services.

Charity workers aren't striking. Just quietly getting on with it.

Re conditions,you have no idea.

It's interesting that the whining and moaning on here is- oh wait- coming from those who are whining about teachers. Irony, much?

OP are you posting from the Tory party conference?
As a worker in the public sector ( not a teacher) I feel insulted by people in well paid professions saying I don't deserve my contributory pension.
A race to the bottom for salary and benefits isn't going to help anyone, ultimately it will impoverish us all.

rude yes bullying no.

Retro

What are you going to make teachers do with the 5 days that kids are not in school?

If defending what you do has become bullying then there is little hope, but then it could be said that posting the same BS about a profession is also a form of bullying.

'Charity workers aren't striking. Just quietly getting on with it.

Re conditions,you have no idea.'

Why quietly get on with it? You don't have to!

Firemen were striking last week. I didn't see one single post on mn about the lazy fuckers. Did I miss it?

Op can start any thread she likes.

It is possible to discuss,disagree like mature adults instead of a pack of spiteful teenagers.You never know both sides might learn something.

Have it your way though- you're the most hard working,hard done by sector of society with the worse t&cs and every single one of you does an amazing job,works in an amazing school and doesn't need to improve or change what so ever.

Happy now?

Oh I started one, about the lazy entitled fuckers, expecting to be paid for a spot of hose-waving & calendar posing.

Oh no hang on - I didn't. Because I'm not an ignorant arse who assumes I know better about their grievances than they do.

Retro just because you say someone posted that, doesn't mean they did.

RavenAK- am loving your posts tonight

All I ever see them doing is stand around polishing their engines.