To think teachers are actually better off than those in the private sector

[coco44]

(Mumsnet Bosses
Please may I rephrase the debate in a more measured way)

[StitchingMoss]

So how would you go about tying pay to performance in teaching?

[echt]

The teachers' pension is self-funding, OP.

[Orangeanddemons]

Ha ha ha ha. Dh gets bonuses, a company car, private health and other stuff. We don't even get our fucking tea or coffee bought for us.

[Johnny5needsinput]

There is a much wrong with the syntax and sentence construction in your posts I don't even know where to start with them.

[Snargaluff]

'I don't think teaching is a particularly difficult or skilled job.'

Again. You do it then. Otherwise why are you so obsessed with teachers? Weirdy alert

[balia]

Mr Gove, please stop lurking on Mumsnet, you're not fooling anybody.

[StitchingMoss]

Orange, don't forget we often buy our own resources too!!

[coco44]

Well how about debating the issues instead Johnny?

[LaurieFairyCake]

I think you might have to explain 'pension is self funding' to the OP as she doesn't seem to be able to grasp concepts easily.

[StitchingMoss]

Are you planning to answer any of these qus OP?

[HavantGuard]

Balia

[Johnny5needsinput]

Ok let's start with the issues.

What's your job? That is considered to be the hardest to get in to, according to your last thread.

[echt]

While I don't routinely quiz my acquaintances about their income, I cannot think of one, either in public or private sector who didn't get paid more than me. I was well paid as a teacher in the UK.

[Souredstones]

Public sector employees only have a good pension because they pay more into it. You want a better pension, pay a higher percentage of your salary into one.

Mine is 5.9% of my salary so not that great compared to other parts of the public sector

[yegodsandlittlefishes]

You can think what you like OP, no problem.

To say it, and pretend there is anything there to debate? Yes, YABVU.

[sonlypuppyfat]

YANBU

[StitchingMoss]

No answers OP?

[motherinferior]

Even if it were true, would this necessarily be a bad thing?

I rather want my children to be taught by people with skills and intelligence and drive. I think those people should be decently paid. They are, after all, doing an incredibly important job. And actually I rate that job more highly than quite a few private sector jobs where ultimately you're working to make your boss rich.

[paperclipsarebetterthanstaples]

Haha - oh op, i wish i had time to start lots of threads on ridiculous topics just to wind people up instead of just grabbing a 5 minute break from marking...

[ChampagneTastes]

Sigh.

[FactOfTheMatter]

Teacher's pensions are paid for by teachers.

Is that easier to understand?

[coco44]

What do you mean by 'self funding' - are you trying to say that the sate (as a teacher' s employer) pays nothing in?
They pay in more than the employee!