To really want a cold, cold winter?

[Sparklymommy]

Just that really. I have enjoyed the summer, don't get me wrong, but I long for a proper winter. Christmas card scenes with snow and frozen ponds.

Exactly, valium. It's a ridiculous thing to suggest.

I disagree. I think liking the winter weather means that you haven't fully grasped the misery that months of cold brings to thousands in the UK.

(Oh, and I'm from SE England - I would give anything to move back to a warmer climate, but sadly jobs and family keep us up here)

YABVU the last very cold winter we had to keep our dog and cats in as it was -24C some of the coldest days. To get our Dd (11) to school (and for us to get to work) we had to leave her at bus stop in -24C. Her school has no lockers so she has to either not bring a coat or carry it all day.

In addition many animals died in last years severe winter in NI. Many farmers went bankrupt.

I'm with you jerseyspud I've never felt so ill as I have this summer

'I disagree. I think liking the winter weather means that you haven't fully grasped the misery that months of cold brings to thousands in the UK.'

Utter bobbins. I do grasp that, thanks very much, because I'm not an imbecile. I can also grasp ? yes I can! ? that if winter brought me misery because of poverty/illness/etc, I probably wouldn't like or look forward to it. However, it doesn't and therefore I do.

Oops Dh says it was actually -18 C

SirChenjin Pants. I might just as easily say that liking warmer weather means you haven't fully grasped the misery that months of heat brings to thousands in the UK. But neither statement is true. You are trying to dress up your preference with some kind of moral superiority it just doesn't have.

cat I'm not shedding any tears for farmers.

sonlypuppyfat Summer is evil

Why the assumption if you don't want a cold winter, you must want a hot summer? I'd like pleasantly warm but not too hot summers and mild winters please.

Catinthebed It didn't reach -24C at any point last year, even if it might have felt like it occasionally. Record lows

As I said, other places are colder for longer, but cope much better. The UK is terrible at dealing with extreme weather, and I would say we need to start getting better at it, as we are getting more of it. I'd rather take the cold than the wet and flooding we had when it wasn't snowing last winter.

Betrayed I don't think it's an assumption, I know many people like mild climates all the year long. It was just the way certain posters jumped on those of us who want a cold winter trying to use a spurious moral argument, which one never sees used against those who want hot summers - because it would be ridiculous so to do, just as ridiculous as it is to try and use it against those who want cold winters. It seemed so nutty using a spurious moral argument to push a preference that the only response was to demonstrate this by using the same technique on something which is often perceived as something 'everyone loves' - the fabled and rarely seen 'hot summer'.

I expect there are some people with medical issues which are exacerbated by mild climates too, come to think of it.......

'I didn't notice anybody caring much about the people for whom this horrendously hot summer has been torture.'

LOL. I didn't think it was especially warm. It was okay. I got a few odd unpredictable evenings without having to lug my coat about but really, it wasn't exactly abroad weather.

Starlight-and I copied just fine in the winter, it would need to be much colder for me to complain.

Coped

See? StarlightMcKenzie thinks those of us who ended up hospitalised because of the heat this summer, and the hundreds of people who died as a direct result of it, are worth a LOL.

It;s about what I'd expect from someone who uses that acronym though, so, whatever.

Hospitalised? What on earth for? Did a bush fire pass through your viallage?

It WASN'T hot. In fact most of it was wet. Humidity is a pita I suppose and can cause issues, but an average of 21 heat degrees really does not.

Agh commuting in winter is utterly grim and dangerous. I hate it and always need to keep leave spare, for just in case I can't make it (don't even live very rurally). YABU

It was hot. Shouting at people won't change that. It was the hottest summer since 2003. The government issued warnings, it was so hot. The air quality was terrible. I and my DD2 were both in hospital for heatstroke, different days. She was properly frightening ill, I was forced to go to A&E by my office. I also know kids with CF who had to go into hospital because of the effects of the appalling air quality.

You are extremely rude and also clearly somewhat ignorant.

So it's ok to win the argument by saying hundreds die in hot weather,but not ok to mention how hard winter is for a lot of people.

Have I got that right?

Lol

Ooooooooooh me too !

air quality is not heat.

Heatstroke is but this country has plenty of shade. It's free, unlike heating. It's really about the decisions you made rather than the actual heat itself.

Hotest summer since 2003 really doesn't mean very much at all. Why is it more significant than, say, the hottest summer since 1974, or the hottest summer since 20012. I suspect next year will be the hottest summer since some other arbitrary date.

You just need to acclimatise, which admittedly is difficult since our summer wasn't very long (it rained throughout half of it), but it's just about being sensible right?

Yeah I don't know what all this 'it wasn't exactly abroad temperatures' is all about. It was, most definitely.

Calm down ladies! All have a

It was hot here. For about three weeks we were hitting 30*.

People suffer in all extreme weather. Hot and cold.