To really want a cold, cold winter?

[Sparklymommy]

Just that really. I have enjoyed the summer, don't get me wrong, but I long for a proper winter. Christmas card scenes with snow and frozen ponds.

I would think more elderly people suffer more in winter than summer.

Not so nice getting up and shivering at the bus stop in the dark though

True. Trudging through the snow to the tram isn't the most fun, but it's better than being on the tram with 800 other very sweaty people and no air circulation!

Yes the fear of slipping is a big one in winter. My DH broke his wrist in a fall last winter. I suppose you can warm up though with lots and lots of clothes and go and sit in the library if all else fails (my local library is hotter than the sun all year around) but it's really hard to cool down if you don't have air con in a heat wave. When I lived in Florida I barely noticed the heat thanks to air con. It makes such a difference. Permanent spring or Autumn is the only answer I think!

Yes, lovely long cold winter here too please. I've spent the whole summer being told I can't complain about the hot weather because "everyone loves it". Well we bloody well don't all love it. So everyone who hates winter can shut up moaning about it. They'll get the same sympathy from me that I get from them. Bugger all.

Ok then, I will send you my gas bill

Shareholder in energy company, perhaps?

YABU. The last loooooooooooooooooong winter was quite enough, thank you, with its very high heating bills.

Only if you have my ice cream bill :o These kids have bankrupted me this summer!

YANBU. As long as it is a proper winter. I want to see ice skating across the Thames. Temperature never above zero. Proper cold and dry so no ice, no slush, no frozen slush, just beautiful powder snow like you get in the Alps.

Although that would be crap for making snowmen.

We rarely get decent snow here the Saaarf coast but I was oop North in March and the snow was fabulous, loved it.
Crisp and cold is ok too as long as you can afford the heating on.

Those pesky kids eh GwedolineMary

usual The hot summer apparently killed hundreds of elderly people. Although I do have my suspicions that just as when an old person dies, and it's cold, they put it down to the cold rather than being old, the same thing happens with the heat. But, see here for example www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/18/heatwave-claims-hundreds-lives_n_3615883.html

The very hot summer of 2003 (I nearly died. I was 9 months pregnant - both I and DD2 were very lucky) saw people dropping like flies all over Europe. :(

Loads of old people die in cold weather too. In fact, they die in indifferent neutral weather as well. As do vulnerable young people. Using 'concern' for the elderly as an excuse for having a preference is a bit disingenuous. I do not dislike heat because elderly people I do not know might die as a result of it. I dislike it because it makes me and my children seriously ill. I like cold winters because they suit my constitution better (even though I am probably the neshest person you will ever meet - one of the reasons why I am susceptible to heatstroke, I don't feel hot even when it is way too hot for me).

I really haven't got a problem with people saying 'yuck I hate the winter'. I have a huge problem with people saying 'but what about the elderly' when what they really MEAN is 'I hate the winter'.

Fuel poverty is a very real problem. if you choose to ignore it ,that's up to you.

Yabu unless you're going to pick me up when I fall on my bum.

No one else in the street gives a crap, it's v embarrassing.

I read somewhere that this winter is going to be very bad.

I hate it, it makes dds eczema much worse, and I'm always freezing. I'd like a nice mild winter, this year and every year.

YANBU. I've hated this summer. It was -18 on my wedding day in 2010, I loved it! I think I was born in the wrong country, I'd live somewhere where it's snowy 365 days a year. I long for the winter.

It's hard to get real statistics on it and obviously they are subject to interpretation and determining the actual cause is tricky but the
NHS reckon there are 25000-30000 excess deaths due to cold weather each year and 2000-3000 excess deaths in 2003.

Considering as one set of figures is every year and one is during our most extreme heat spell recorded, I think even with fudging figures massively there will be a clear difference.

Have to say, that really surprised me, i wasnt sure what I'd find hunting around.

Cold makes me feel poorly, I always get a severe inflammatory arthritis flare and my circulation is very poor. Not life threatening, but life affecting.

I'm really worrying about getting another cold winter. I'm expecting a son in November/December and it was so cold in our flat last year that we could see our breath and I was sleeping with two tops, leggings, trousers, two pairs of socks and a hoodie on. If it's as cold as last year, we'll have to stay with my mum until the worst passes for the sake of the wee one.

kitten My circulation is appalling (I have a hereditary condition). It's one of the reasons why heat affects me so badly.

You can mitigate the cold (although, yes, you have to buy extra clothing, gloves, socks, blankets etc. It certainly doesn't require central heating though). You can't mitigate the heat. That's the bottom line, really.

I hate the heat so I'm definitely an autumn/winter person but we live in a very hilly suburb so when everthing is covered in ice it's absolutely lethal! DC3 is due end of Oct so I'll be carrying a newborn around in it too.

So yes to winter, no to snow and ice!

Too hot makes me faint :) but its better now its controlled with medication.

Problem is I can put on as many layers as I like, but my hands and feet stay cold, I need active heat to warm them up.

You need to move to the States where you can glide from airconditioning to airconditioning!

Liking the winter weather doesn't mean people are ignoring fuel poverty.

Don't care as long as we get some sunshine. Winter makes me miserably depressed these days.

YANBU i am so with you there :D

I hate summer. I hate the heat, the humidty and i'm aware i live in totally the wrong place.

I hate the light nights and light mornings, i hate the fact that no matter how i dress i'm too hot. I hate how its too hot to share a bedroom with my husband.

I love winter. I love being able to wrap up warm. To get the kids to sleep before 10pm at night.

Its an each to their own i think, there are problems with both major seasons for elderly and young alike.

And yes, i've also heard this winter is going to be a hard one.

Lots of interesting arguments for and against a cold winter then!