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Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

999 replies

noblegiraffe · 20/08/2013 13:17

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

OP posts:
Emilythornesbff · 22/08/2013 10:09

Grin littlebear I always take them into the kiosk too. Blush
In car seat.
Or use "pay at pump"

If I leave the car unlocked someone might take them or steal the car or whatever.
If I lock the car their movement sets off the alarm.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:11

I always figured there was more chance of me being knocked down by a car as I tried to haul the car seat into the kiosk. I just use pay at the pump now, makes life a lot easier.

curlew · 22/08/2013 10:12

Have you considered the possibility of you being knocked over and killed by a hit and run driver as you walk across the garage forecourt? Or being caught up in an armed robbery as you queue to pay for your petrol?

The child would be much safer in the car then!

DropYourSword · 22/08/2013 10:12

Oh but Emily, you know that you're not allowed to do that. It's wrong to make your own decisions on how concerned you need to be about your children, dontcha know! Wink

DropYourSword · 22/08/2013 10:12

Haha, knew it!

Emilythornesbff · 22/08/2013 10:19

I know drop

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 22/08/2013 10:24

You can make whatever decision you like.

And we can judge you as selfish and entitled.

And both of you are pretty damn insensitive with your wee sneering comments and winks IMO.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:25

You can make your own decisions about when to be concerned about your own children BUT what you can't do is then act on those decisions in a way that causes a disabled person to be unable to use the facility that is designed for them. No one is saying that you have to leave your child. They are just saying that using a disabled access toilet should not be the other option. By all means, never let your children out of your sight, but you need to figure out a way of doing that that doesn't involve using the disabled access facilities.

olidusUrsus · 22/08/2013 10:27

Go back and READ THE THREAD. This has all been covered. curlew I don't know how you've managed with this whole Groundhog Day shit, I think I need psychiatric help and I've only been reading it

olidusUrsus · 22/08/2013 10:29

Yy Hop

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:31

Of course it's all been covered. It's been done a million times on mumsnet but people still don't fucking get it. They still think that the world revolves around them and their precious snowflake and screw people like Dawdonna's DD because 'lalalalala me me me me me me me'. It's beyond frustrating and really is just a snapshot of the general attitude towards those with disabilities.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:32

Sorry olidus misread your comment as aimed at me.

kungfupannda · 22/08/2013 10:34

HopALongOn Thu 22-Aug-13 10:25:25

You can make your own decisions about when to be concerned about your own children BUT what you can't do is then act on those decisions in a way that causes a disabled person to be unable to use the facility that is designed for them

Well, they can - and they're clearly going to - but they shouldn't then be surprised if most people think they're selfish and unreasonable.

olidusUrsus · 22/08/2013 10:34

I naïvely thought that most posters would try to flick through what had been covered on the very thread they wanted to add to before they made their contribution, Hop.

Really fucking disheartening. Won't be so naïve again Sad

olidusUrsus · 22/08/2013 10:35

No prob Hop

DropYourSword · 22/08/2013 10:35

I have read the entire thread. And I will point out AGAIN that I have never even suggested that i even think it might be OK to use a disabled toilet. I have simply stated that I can understand why people would be concerned about their child being taken. And I cant understand why people aggressively argue that there is absolutely no possible risk AT ALL! And I feel sorry for mums who have this concern being rudely dismissed as 'entitled' or 'precious'. I have resisted sneering comments and winks for over 800 posts, so think I will 'entitle' myself to use one now!

DropYourSword · 22/08/2013 10:37

Oh, and you don't actually have to read the whole thread. You just should read the OP, which NEVER MENTIONS disabled toilets, which was a side issue that was picked up along the way.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:37

Don't be silly, why would anyone bother to read the whole thread?

olidusUrsus · 22/08/2013 10:39
Wink

Back to lurking before I give into the temptation of becoming a wind up merchant...

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:41

Drop this is a thread about a thread, which was about disabled access toilets. I do thin it's precious to think your child will be snatched in the half a minute you are in the toilet (potentially with the door open) HOWEVER I understand that people worry about ridiculous things all the time. What people are pissed off about (or at least I am) is people using this worry as an excuse for using the accessible toilets (not talking about baby changing), and then getting up in arms when people point out that logically speaking this is beyond a low risk situation. There are no recorded cases of it happening. Ever. We do much much riskier things every single day without a second thought. But if you still don't want to leave your child, fine. Don't. I'm not forcing you to. I'm just saying that what some people consider as the alternative option (using the disabled access toilets) should not actually be an option.

pumpkinsweetie · 22/08/2013 10:41

Can't believe this thread is still ongoing and is much more of a "disabled toilet" thread than the original thread op written.

All those saying there is "no risk" at all of your child being abducted and you are happy to leave them- that is your individual choice just as it is a mothers choice to infrequently use the disabled toilets when changing baby and having a quick pee.

Instead of moaning on for hundreds of pages, why not actually do something that is the problem of double use disabled toilets. Like a campaign for example.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 22/08/2013 10:41

Glad you have your priorities right then Drop.

You have fun sneering and winking then

whatsleep · 22/08/2013 10:42

When my dd was in a pram I always used the disabled toilet if there was not a family friendly one. I know they are technically for people in wheel chairs etc but I can't for one minute think that a wheel chair bound person would think it unreasonable for a mum with a pram to use the same facility? And to be honest I have never once come out if the cubicle to find anyone waiting to get in.

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:42

And after 33 pages, it might just be that the conversation has diverged slightly or must we all stay exactly on topic all the time?

ifyourehoppyandyouknowit · 22/08/2013 10:43

Oh. My. God. whatsleep Seriously? Seriously seriously? Read. The. Thread. Look for Dawndonna's posts by her DD.