Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

[noblegiraffe]

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

I'm not a person with disabilities. It costs me nothing to fight. However I have seen the toll it took on my Dad's health. My mum also has disabilities but is not in any sort of position to fight.

MrsDeVere

Yy kungfu, well put.

x-posted. Talk to her, not about her.

MrsDeVere, he does things for charity you know, so how could you call him names?

Applauds mrsdevere

Night all.

I always used the disabled loo. Even now, when the kids go into a loo cubicle, I make them wait in their cubicle until I come out of mine then shout to tell them to leave theirs.....they are 11 and 8

Whilst I don't appreciate the sentiment of being called bitchy (not too fussed about the arsehole though!) I am pleased to be in such good company.

Awh, you got a PM!? I think he likes you, you lucky thing

loopdy what does your eleven year old do when he/she is out on their own?!! They will be fine a their ages to go to the toilet on their own.

I was going to ignore and go to bed, but please someone tell me how the phrase bitchy arseholes is mysogonistic. I know people that are bitchy that are male and female.

Now you really are clutching at straws.

Don't worry MrsDevere. You won't hear from me again.

Just read further up the thread where people (curlew was one I saw) mention about parents not using the disabled toilets???

Surely you realise that disabled toilets are not ONLY there for disabled people but to enable those with disabilities to be able to use them as they cannot use a small toilet!!

It really annoys me when people tut if they see me coming out of a disabled loo....well they could have done it themselves if they had wanted. Accessible loos are not only for disabled people.

smad she hasn't yet been anywhere on her own except twice to the local coffee shop. If we are in a restaurant, I generally let them go on their own but after reading what happened to that girl (11 I think) in a Tesco loo, I'd rather not risk it in places with very high volumes of people so I tend to go with them both.

Anyone feel up for doing it all over again?

Oh FFS

I don't have any disabilities, none of my friends have any disabilities. This doesn't stop me realising that you don't block the disabled toilet. If like me you are anxious about letting young DC out of sight you sacrifice your own privacy and dignity, not someone else's.

And Ilove you never have to do worse than take a dump. I've had to deal with cascading blood with the toilet door open so I can keep an eye on DS for the 5-10 minutes it takes, bent over with agonising cramps and debating where to be sick before I can leave the toilet again. But you know what, I have it easy compared to DDD's DD. So I count my blessings and hope no-one looks around the cubicle door. They never have, because its fairly obvious that there is someone in the end cubicle with the buggy poking out the doorway.

But I forgot, you are a father who looks after your DC and donates money to charidee, therefore you are beyond reproach.

getyoursocksoff I don't know which comment of mine you don't agree with. Sorry.

I think part of the problem on this thread in terms of the anger and hateful and personal comments is that parents of disabled children have had to fight for their children for day one. Fighting prejudice and bureaucracy and even the services that are meant to help.
It's a struggle that most of us don't have to face

But the thing is, abduction (for example) may be rare but it does happen, and it can happening a flash and it's so mind bendingly horrifically awful that I, for one, am not willing to leave my children unattended. and the baby change facilities are often in the disabled loo, so I am allowed to use them. And if there we no other safe alternative I would use a disabled loo (even if it didn't have changing facilities) because I will not leave my small childn unattended.

It's not for comfort or convenience or for being a fucking selfish cunt.
I am not dismissive of the difficulties experienced by other people.
But neither am I responsible for them.
The examples of painful and humiliating experiences that have been given do not really relate to the situations that "occasional, conscientious users of accessible facilities" (for want of a much much better term) have described was their conditions for using such facilities.

Anyway, on the whole, ppl have talked about using shared facilities, and not as a norm, but either when they change their baby or toddler, or if there is no other a option. Really, I don't actually care if someone takes my pram or my bag. But I'll not leave my children for anyone to take. No matter how unlikely that is.

The spiteful language that's used when referring to a parent's concerns about safety " pweshus babas", "entitled" parents thinking that the streets are filled with "hoards of marauding baby snatchers" is hurtful because it hints at a deeper resentment.

Well given she is at or will be at high school soon you could do with giving her a bit to freedom, if you dont let a child go to the toilet at 11 wine will you let her? 12/13/14?! Fgs.

Brilliant

(Couldn't resist a final lurk either :) )

Oh no x post....