Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

[noblegiraffe]

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

Thank you drop and Emily. I shouldn't let my temper get the better of me. It makes my posts a little too aggressive........

And here comes that temper again. Sockreturningpixie. I am more than competent at looking after my children thank you very much. We all do get caught short once in a while. Oh, except for you of course. You don't shit you are so damn perfect.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022701549.html?sid=ST2009030602446

www.madeformums.com/what-to-buy---baby/5-of-the-best-anti-theft-buggy-locks/25727-4.html

Here you go, a lock to lock your bags to the pushchair and a lock for your pushchair, get those and you wont have to worry about your pushchair being stolen.

gobbysadcase you're fighting right now. And if that's the only place for a parent to change their child, directing your anger at the parent helps no one. You should fight again because things have evolved and it doesn't seem to be in the right direction.

emily I can't agree with your comment but it's only a small part of the issue.

Curlew. It's nothing to do with abduction ( or abdication.......). There are 101 other things that could happen. That's why I do not want to leave my children OR my property out of sight.

Is it too much to want a couple of larger cubicle? We didn't have parent and child parking bays years ago but we do know and they make life easier.

I don't need to campaign, Drop. There are already disabled toilets, which I use and mens' toilets which DH and my DSes use.

5madthings just need a lock for the baby and we're good.......

little miss I thought it would be clear enough, but my last comment was directed towards parents.

Is it too much to want a couple of larger cubicle?

Then ask for them. Disabled loos are not four times the size of a normal cubicle just for the hell of it.

Wow. Thanks 5madthings. Now all I have to ask the owners of the shopping centre I use to install something to lock to as the shiny tiled surface isn't that great for that.

Now just to spend a fortune on some lockable bags.........

www.gadgetbaby.co.uk/protect-your-unattended-buggy-with-this-buggy-lock-from-buggygaurd/

Here you go,'another one, there are lots to choose from so you can buy one and stop being am entitled fuckwit and suing the disabled toilets.

And no I wont campaign as I have no need, I have managed to parents for fourteen years and with five children without having to use a disabled toilet.'when my eldest was little there weren't even baby change facilities, I survived! I did speak to the university I was at and so they installed a baby change facility on campus, but it is perfectly possible to manage without.

And parent and child spaces are nothing more than a marketing gimmick,'they are not legally enforceable, unlike disabled spaces and they never will be, seeing as having a child is not a disability that requires protection.

Aidan. Read what my issues are before trying to be oh so clever.

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"Curlew. It's nothing to do with abduction ( or abdication.......). There are 101 other things that could happen. That's why I do not want to leave my children OR my property out of sight. "

There really aren't, you know. The only thing that might possibly happen is that somebody might lift your purse. So take that in with you

You lock them through the wheels if you bothered to read how to works it has an extendable cable so you can lock it through both back wheels or both from wheels and then the buggy can't be wheeled away! Or you can find somewhere to lock it up and then walk to true toilet, there is often a bench nearby public toilets.

You don't need to spend a fortune on lockable bags,'any bag with a zip can have a small padlock attached, they are cheap enough to buy, or you know take your bag in with you like e dry other fucking person with a brain does.

I think it has been suggested umpteen times on this thread that if you believe you need better facilities for your parenting needs, then campaign for them.

We've been there, got the disabled loo. I am sure that you don't lose all ability to organise a campaign by having a baby.

Spikeytree You haven't though, have you? You got the disabled loo, which became a disabled loo/baby change, which became an accessible loo.

Which means that parents DO need to use the facility. And which creates an ethos that those spaces are not exclusively for disabled people. Which may seem ignorant to those of you dealing with this on a daily basis, but isn't, really. It's a fairly reasonable conclusion based on the facilities available if your perspective is that of a new mum tying to find her way.

The arrogance in some of these posts just pisses off the people whose perspectives you could be changing (

Trying. Blinkin auto correct.

So those least able to fight for something should have to again because parents can't be arsed?

Yep, Spikeytree.
Because businesses couldn't be arsed to put baby changes in their own designated places they abused the disabled facilities.

This normalised abuse of the facilities.

:)

Nope. You guys are fighting hard enough on here. Nothing wussy about you that I can see.

And I've suggested already that we (all of us) should be campaigning for better facilities so that all our needs are met.

And here comes that temper again. Sockreturningpixie. I am more than competent at looking after my children thank you very much. We all do get caught short once in a while. Oh, except for you of course. You don't shit you are so damn perfect

Oh I do shit, often myself because of people like you.

And your obviously not if you can't think of any solution to going to the toilet when you have children with you. Despite many of them being on this thread.

Wow. I know people with disabilities are often spoken over/ignored/treated as deaf or stupid, but clearly their typing is entirely invisible too.

Someone has now posted eloquently and passionately about what it is actually like to need these facilities to be kept as free as possible for urgent use - and has been spectacularly and persistently ignored by some posters defending their right to continue to do exactly what they want.

DD's DD (Is that right? Too many Ds?) Best of luck for your results and well done for speaking out on this. It sounds like you've got some good friends - that says a huge amount about you, in my opinion. There are plenty of people who wouldn't bother to help you out - glad you've found some good'uns.