Would you leave your baby unattended in their buggy

[noblegiraffe]

...while you use the loo?

On another thread I mentioned not being able to get a buggy into a small cubicle and the suggestion was to leave baby outside.

Would I be overly precious in thinking 'No, I wouldn't do that'?

littlebear when my ds1 and ds2 was little that was exactly the case, a few shops had a baby change, most did not. I took (and still do) a little fold up changing mat with me.

These fold down changing tables are relatively new, we survived without them! Imagine that, just like we survived without p&b parking spaces

My youngest is two BTW and so my experience is not out of date.

No teachers, none that I can think of.

I can't see why df 'should' have to search for somewhere else to change his baby tbh. Maybe he should do it in the carpark? A corner of the shopping centre? The foyer of the Tesco café?

Just so long as he doesn't step foot in that disabled toilet.

The sooner official permits come ,the better, hopefully they will state that the holder. Is a selfish person completely lacking in conscience. Have any of you stopped to consider how difficult the day to day life of a person with a disability is, steps for people who need a chair or crutches, just getting out, some days, trying to use public transport and on top of all of that, some selfish arse makes using the loo difficult too.

5mad, you provided what you think is a reasonable solution, but it seems there are many on this thread who disagree. Most seem to at least leave the door open, I'm trying to think if that would be logistically possible with the toilet I have in mind (floor to ceiling doors btw). I have a feeling that the doors opened outwards, making it trickier.

Well, I have changed my kids in stranger places, Gangsters. One of the great advantages babies in nappies have, after all, is that you don't need to find a toilet to change them in .. it's the post potty training stage when you know every single public toilet in town intimately... (we used to call it toilet tourism)

Oh Jesus. Leave the buggy. Take the child. Nobody gets hurt.

Unintended consequences still mean those consequences happen. It doesn't stop them. so you might not mean to cause pain, distress, humiliation but it will happen, and knowing that you'll still continue?

You're sorry we get a hard time? Really? What do you think causes those 'hard times'? In the examples I've given selfish, ignorant shits who don't give a toss who has to suffer as long as they're alright.

Well if you don't find it a reasonable solution you are welcome to come up with your own solution so long as it doesn't involve using a disabled toilet. Simples.

If there is no alternative at all teachers, then so have I.

But IMO, in this situation, a disabled toilet is a reasonable place to do it.

Yes. But like has already been said, probably end cubicle with door open if disabled/buggy friendly loo not available

Exactly, 5mad. Find a solution without using the toilet you are not allowed to use because you are NOT disabled .... go on. Imagine it is locked. What would you do then? Then do that.

sovery yep they didn't have many baby changes when my eldest was a baby, we survived! He was changed in the buggy, on grass verges and on park benches, just with the little fold up mat I had. No need to use the disabled toilet.

Use a sling or hold baby or ask someone to watch them, plenty of choices that don't inconvenience others.

Wit outside loo for a nice looking person who isn't in a hurry. Say"would you mind watching my baby while I pop to the loo?" Go to the loo. Come out. Thank random stranger. Go on your way. Sorted.

Agree Mrs. I would say that pretty much anywhere is a better place to change a child than ANY toilet floor...

Oh, and no changing table in the gents?
I remember being at Trago Mills in Newton Abbott. DS1 was a baby, I was pg with DS2 and had severe SPD so on crutches. Before knowing about disabilities btw so standard baby/parent situation.

DH had to do the nappy change, either that or me do it on the floor which I didn't think would go down well. There was no change table in gents, just the ladies. So DH went in there.

I assumed that's what you did and I've done the same when there's no baby change but when there is I use it whether its in the disabled loos or not.

MrsDeVere, we were told in our antenatal class. You know, before the delivery.

5mad, I'm afraid that if I were in the exact same situation again, I may well do the exact same thing again. But this thread wasn't about that.

The problem with official permits Dawn, and those pass thingies, is that if you are temporarily disabled you can't access a loo. I have had a lot of knee surgery so sometimes have worn leg braces, had crutches etc and (as said earlier) birth trauma double incontinence. I would not have been considered 'disabled' but still often have needed the use of a disabled loo. It's just a shame we cant all rely on judgement.

I just leave them outside the cubicle, I doubt anyone would be able to steal them without me hearing in the 30 seconds it takes to pee.

If you don't want to do this take the baby out the pushchair and into the toilet with you

Mmm...for a quick wet nappy, yes.

For a screaming and wriggly 5 month old with a huge shitty nappy that's leaking...disabled toilet floor is preferable.

For many reasons...space and privacy being among them.

Whereas I wouldn't use it as I don't want to inconvenience someone who might need it and who has a much greater need.