...if think this woman should spend more time with her children!

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www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2393742/No-job--time-nanny-children-But-dont-try-telling-Alex-shes-bad-mum.html

This woman thinks women don't like the fact she has full time help and a nanny even though she doesn't work... I would say it is more to do with the fact she doesn't spend a lot of time with her children in the week even though she doesn't work! She doesn't do a lot with them if the nanny is there five days a week until 6pm does she?!

I don't need a nanny. I would, and have in the past, employed people for household tasks and ironing. That sort of thing.

And at least she's not pretending she has no help. I know people who complain about managing children they really never seem to see or spend time with.

yy elsie or the celebs who claim to have no help at all.

(I remember a brown-nosey article by India Knight about Sadie Frost about how she ran a business and had four kids "with no nanny," and in the same edition of the same newspaper that very day was an article about the launch of Sadie Frost's new business, and the journalist opened the article mentioning she had arrived at Sadie Frost's house and been let in by the nanny . . . )

I wonder if we women would be happier if we didn't spend so much of our time justifying what we do and criticising what other women do?

"happy mum, happy baby" is silly.... when taken to its logical extent this would mean its OK to spend your day sitting around in your jim jams drinking martinis while your kids watch wall to wall Nick Jnr.

But this woman isn't damaging or neglecting her kids as far as I can see. She's just very smug and irritating.

I would be feeling sorry for the husband having to pay for it all at the expense of time with his children but they both sound as bad as each other.

Two children with no job to juggle is what thousands do every day, even more do it and work! That said, some people heavily rely on grandparents every day or weekend only difference being the GPs dont get paid. Many have cleaners despite being at home to do the housework. Depends how hands on you are as a parent or your views i suppose.

If I actually had money to burn and didn't work I think I would probably employ a full time nanny. That wouldn't mean that I didn't spend loads of time with my children though.

Firstly, it would mean that there was continuity of care for the children, when they had childcare it would be with the same person. Plus it would give flexibility, I would always be able to go where I liked at short notice and there would always be someone available to look after the kids.

As this woman says it enables her to spend one on one time with each child, which sounds really nice.

It sounds like she's with the nanny and children a lot of the time but just lets the nanny pick up the grotty jobs like the ironing and cleaning car seats and cleaning the kitchen.

It doesn't say anywhere that she's dumping the kids and not spending time with them, just that she has a nanny there to help out.

That article is just designed to promote jealousy, I doubt she even sounded that smug, I know what the mail are like they will have edited it like that.

I also hate 'happy mum, happy baby' (which is so often followed by 'hun' but maybe not so much here ) and i've personally never said it. But i think the people who say it to reassure new mums may be the ones who then judge women like this who 'don't spend enough time with their children'

Anyway, i must leave this thread now. You've reminded me to turn Nick Jr off and get dressed

HappyMumofOne if you read the full story the grandmother did used to do all the things that the nanny does, but she died. I think it's a bit crap people would think it's okay for a grandparent to help out like this but it's not okay for someone who's lost a parent to replace that support if they can.

Surely the invites to baby and toddler groups soon dried up because she never had the baby or toddler with her so what's the point.

Weird pov from her imo

Once a month I pay a woman to take one of my children out so I can take the other one out.
When the child I have was away I didn't cancel. It was great

So, she can afford to pay someone else to do all the childcare bits she doesn't like, while she gets to do the fun bits she does like.

Of course her DC get to see her, she's constantly wafting around the house annoying the nanny.

Those criticising her are just jealous she can pop to post a letter without having to convince two small children they really want to come too.

And there is nothing "poor" about her DC. Can you imagine anyone criticiting a mother working full time because she loved her career, and calling her children "poor things?" Arf!

Another Daily Fail article published to set off a judging session. It's just trolling with adverts.

I suspect her children have more "quality time" which is a phrase I hate, with their mother because she just gets to do the fun stuff .

I wonder if we women would be happier if we didn't spend so much of our time justifying what we do and criticising what other women do?

No of course not - where would the fun be in that?

I didn't mean to come over as judgmental, I should have put "IMO" at the beginning of my comment. When my kids were small, and I a SAHM, I couldn't have handed them over to someone else. Of course I enjoyed evenings out with friends and swimming sessions(without kids) but handing them over to a nanny would have left me depressed.

Fair enough JenniBoo

HappyMumofOne if you read the full story the grandmother did used to do all the things that the nanny does, but she died. I think it's a bit crap people would think it's okay for a grandparent to help out like this but it's not okay for someone who's lost a parent to replace that support if they can.

I think most people would assume that grandparents weren't providing 50 hours a week of care.

Anyway, I think people would judge. Have an acquaintance who dumps her baby on her mother for days at a time, so she can go shopping and clubbing and lie in bed with a hang over. People judge that plenty...

I think she's maybe not dealt with the loss of her mum too well and the nanny is filling a gap for her.

Would almost feel sorry for her if it wasn't for the unbearable smugness (although I think that's fairly thinly veiled defensiveness actually).

..oh and I would have had a cleaner once a week if someone had paid for it!

She sounds rather self absorbed mind you she has plenty of time to just think about herself and her impact on others I doubt many give a second throught her life or noticed her nails

YANBU I wish we could afford for me to be a sahm, unlike this lady though that is because I would love to be with my children all day. I'm jealous that she doesn't need to work but certainly not jealous that she is more concerned with making sure she looks good and is relaxed for when her dh comes home than being their for her babies ( who she waited a long time for!)

Maybe the discomfort with it all pagwatch is that deep down we think little children should be with their mums most of the time, and that once someone has a child they should step up to the mark and be there for them - even if it means they can't go clubbing or have their hair done as often as before....

And the problem is, we're so use to women having to go out to work, that it's become an acceptable and responsible reason for being away, but in doing so, has undermined the argument that mothers should be stepping up to the mark for our kids?

Just a thought....

I feel sorry for the children. I judge her. So what, she wants I be judged and sneered at - she loves it.

Safire frost had a nanny but Jude law fucked her..

op really who gives a flying fuck.

the only judgement I would make is from her article she sounds like a massive boring pain in the arse and not as good looking as she seems to think she is but hey ho.

her money her choice.

stop reading the daily mail that's very unreasonable.