to wonder why people don't just wash?

[curlew]

So much easier and less painful than waxing or circumcising.

Well, I do have a dd, and another on the way. What they do with their bodily hair will be up to them. However, if they do decide to remove it I won't be letting them do a botch job in secret, too scared to tell me incase I explode with anger as its not natural!

Although in the interests of a balanced opinion - pubic lice cases are at an all time low

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/257885.php Interesting

Laugh away at my wild fanjo, at least tis not warty

Well if she came on MN and read any of a number of threads she would be told by about 50 people that pubic hair is disgusting and they just can't live with it.

But why would she care if you've taught her not to care or listen to what others think and do?

Oh for lice sake

Duh

"Curlew, who is looking at your Daughter's pubic hair and telling her she's unhygienic ?"

Well, about 20 posters onMumsnet this morning alone......

And there was an apologising for being hairy in the delivery room poster this morning as well

It is sad that some women feel they have to alter their bodies to match expectations but that's why we need to tell our daughters or any other female family members who might need to be told that you don't have to follow those expectations because its normal to have body hair. The women who feel they need to apologise to midwives or doctors for having pubic hair missed that guidance. I see it in my own mum when she is horrified that I (shock horror) have hairy legs. If I took any notice I wouldn't have a hair left below my neck.

But why would she care if you've taught her not to care or listen to what others think and do?

Precisely Fakebook

Every generation has sat round, clicking their knitting needles, lamenting the past and shaking their heads about their kid's future.

It's pretty futile, so the best way forward is to teach them to think independently.

I'm glad I was a teenager in the '70s when you were only judged on how thin your eyebrows were.

I agree worra and fakebook.

I have a DD, so my opinion counts.

Lots of teenage lads removing body hair nowadays.

I'll be teaching my daughter to not give a flying shit about what anyone else thinks of her appearance, whether they be pro-shaving or pro-body hair. I don't particularly see what the massive raging issue here is tbh.

Must've missed the memo where it said this stuff actually matters. It is just hair.

What, people have actually stated, "curlew, your dd is stinky and unhygienic" and have seen her pubic hair? .

When you post sensitive information about your child's bodily parts on the Internet, you have to do it with the knowledge that people out there will say things that may hurt. I really doubt anyone in RL would ever even discuss this matter with you. I've never had a discussion about my pubic hair with anyone in RL. Maybe there are others who have, I don't know.

But why would she care if you've taught her not to care or listen to what others think and do"

That's worked well for all the women on here who think their pubic hair is dirty and disgusting, has 't it?

Who are they harming though... They're shaving their own hair off, not insisting that you do the same. If you know that you're not dirty and disgusting, hair and all, why does it matter?

I have no idea what my 18 year old dd does with her pubic hair and so long as she doesn't clog up the plughole with it, I shall continue not to care. It is up to her.

I do suspect that she is of the same thought as me which is 'do what you want and don't let anyone make you feel bad about your body'.

I was never in the 'I must pluck my eyebrows and conform' camp in the 70s anyway.

Anyone expressing horror that other people have pubic hair is a bit of a twat really and it has nothing to do with them.

"That's worked well for all the women on here who think their pubic hair is dirty and disgusting, has 't it?"

Your assum

Fuck!

You're assuming the women on here have been taught to not care what others think. I taught myself that in my 30s, about the same time I stopped worrying about hair removal, actually.

ICBINEG, in 1987 I remember making a fuss as shaving was still almost obligatory on maternity wards and I wanted my parts left alone in that regard, because I regarded it as my divine right to be hairy, plus Miriam Stoppard discussed this in her book.

I asked 13 year old DS this self-same question.

"I'm a boy. Boys don't."

Yes, but why??

"So you can tell it's me when your eyes are shut."

He doesn't shave yet, though.

tanith

I have been trying to put all these threads about hair removal together. And I dont know if anyone has seen an article in the , yes DM by Shiobna [sp] someone about her daughters.

This is my theory fwiw. I have daughters who are now early 20's. But I look around me, and listen and read, and I think there is now an issus for young girls in aprticular who are in their early teens, that there wasnt to such an extent even a decade ago.

And it seems to me, that some mums are getting exasperated, including the journalist. And are trying to halt it all in some way.
Maybe, just maybe, the tide is or will turn to do with it all.

Last night there was a programme on Ch4 called "How to stop yourself getting older" or some such title as that. Thought I would have a look. I was horrified [probably naively] to find that it seemed to be all about 28 year olds being advised on plastic surgery.
Enough said.

I shower everyday despite and have to use a prescription antiperspirant, despite this if my pits are hairy they smell and it disgusts me, so I shave them for myself.

My legs and bikini line on the other hand are left wild as they don't affect my personal hygiene.

No one has ever told me to shave or wax, the only pressure I've ever seen with regards to hair removal is on MN - bring told not to fit the sake of our daughters

It isn't about doing it or not doing it really, its about the choice.

I only have a DS, but i don't want him to grow up "expecting" hair removal from women as there is nothing disgusting about body hair only a personal preference and that preference should only matter to the person whose body it is.

I like a toned stomach but don't expect DH to spend hours in the gym honing one for me as he has no interest in going to the gym and it would be unfair of me to have that expectation.

There seems to be a disconcerting trend toward fitting a mold instead of embracing our differences and preferences and loving someone for who they are, not the person they are trying to be.

Fucking sad tbh

Totally agree, Alpaca.

Just be who you are and everyone else butt out.