to wonder why people don't just wash?

[curlew]

So much easier and less painful than waxing or circumcising.

worra

well that explains some things...

Alpaca, if it's a 'corker' is it all twisty? And can you get a wine cork out with it?

Like a [http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/08/duck-penises/ Ducks?]]

Being able to open wine with it! That is the stuff of dreams.

oh balls

Try again!

Is he a duck?!

Am I missing something - do men have hair on their bell ends?
eh?

Funniest thing ever!! Burst out laughing to lots of strange looks from people around me :)

He is quackers

(im here all week )

badoom tish

It takes an hour or less for a heavy period or lochia to soak your pubes. People do wash, but rinsing your pubic hair every time you go to the loo is time consuming and messy, especially when you have limited time with a newborn or when you're at work.

I don't even understand why you're hung up on this, does it affect you directly what other people choose to do?

Also, re: the circumcision (which others have stated is a completely ridiculous comparison) sometimes washing doesn't stop infections, especially in babies.

I"ll tell you why I feel strongly about pubic hair removal. I hate the fact that my daughter is growing up in a world where her perfectly normal secondary sexual characteristics are thought of as unhygienic and disgusting. Where yet another part of her body requires modification to make it acceptable- or otherwise it will be dirty and smelly. Where women giving birth feel the need to apologise for not having been able to reach to remove their pubic hair. And where men are growing up to think that a porn-informed aesthetic is the norm.

Circumcision? I feel strongly about that because it is performing unnecessary and painful surgery on a person unable to give consent. Often in the name of "hygiene".

Enough explanation?

curlew it's going to get worse before it gets better...your whole womb/vagina is now something that is apparently in need of fabreezing...hence the scented tampons...

Us poor dirty, disgusting, hairy women...it's a wonder our fanjos don't rot off completely what with the hair, and the blood....

How did the women of history ever make it to child bearing age without access to razors, waxing kits, and scented tampons?

Oh well

Just tell your DD to completely ignore any mad ranters, who tell her what she should or shouldn't do with her own personal hair.

It's no-one else's business, including yours.

fakebook anyone with a DD should surely be worried about the effects of growing up thinking your natural state is intrinsically dirty and disgusting shouldn't they?

I mean low self-esteem and body image issues are real problem in the real world aren't they?

Do you really think you can keep telling someone they need to change to be acceptable, that there were born needing massive improvement to be allowed out of the house without them developing these issues?

"Oh well

Just tell your DD to completely ignore any mad ranters, who tell her what she should or shouldn't do with her own personal hair.

It's no-one else's business, including yours"

Simple as that. Do you have a daughter?

Yes it's that simple curlew

We bring kids into this world knowing full well that we don't get to control what goes on in it.

All you can do is equip her with the intelligence to know that it's her body, and no-one else's business.

I dont have a DD but I don't see what that has to do with it?

How did the women of history ever make it to child bearing age without access to razors, waxing kits, and scented tampons?

Erm, I don't know, why don't you ask the ancient Egyptians seeing as they were removing body hair with sugaring as far back as then.

Curlew, who is looking at your Daughter's pubic hair and telling her she's unhygienic? I'm sure with a mother like you, she'll be comfortable being how she is without being influenced by anyone else. You're her biggest influence, not the outside world.

On the other thread, every woman had stated they don't remove the hair for doctors or midwives, it's for themselves. So I don't understand where you're getting this idea from that women are apologising for not being able to remove their hair before birth.

"I dont have a DD but I don't see what that has to do with it?'

You k ow when you have a toddler and think it qualifies you to advise people about their 11 year olds?

That.

I heard a woman apologise for not having shaved on entering the maternity ward in labour....so it certainly happened at least once.

I will say this again on MN

Pubes catch pheromones which make you smell sexy

They also catch sweat to stop it dripping down into the vagina causing smelly fanjo.

If i hear one more bloody time that its is more hygienic!

There is science in this shit

Everyone has the right to conduct their own genital topiary as they wish but pedaling a load of tosh at youngsters about cleanliness grinds my gears.

Curlew, who is looking at your Daughter's pubic hair and telling her she's unhygienic?

Well if she came on MN and read any of a number of threads she would be told by about 50 people that pubic hair is disgusting and they just can't live with it.

I have been told in the last hour that I must be smelly, because I don't shave my armpits. By a total stranger who doesn't know me from adam, but is ADAMANT that I am smelly and dirty.

Don't be silly curlew

I am a DD and have been for 44 years

I also have a step granddaughter

Are you seriously suggesting that MNetters only comment if they happen to have a child of a particular sex?

It doesn't change the fact that you're going to have to teach your DD to think independently.

Although if she doesn't share your thoughts, I can see how that might be a problem for you...

alpaca whoa! FACTS? no-one wants to hear FACTS....the 24/7 exposure to adverts from people making money out of convincing us that we are dirty and disgusting have ensured that people are totally incapable of believing the FACTS.

On a previous thread about this, there was a very sad and touching story from someone who had been bullied at school because in the showers after PE it was clear who had followed the waxing norm and who hadn't. I think there is a lot more of that in today's school showers than when I was at school.

Will I not get an automatic pass for not shaving it when I go in labour? !? I won't be able to reach the damn thing!

And if I can't reach it, christ knows how I'll manage to circumcise it!!

I'm going to cry my science loving little heart out now.

On another note - I wonder with all these chemically enhanced fanjo freshers has there been an increase in thrush?

I must check canesten profits