to wonder why people don't just wash?

[curlew]

So much easier and less painful than waxing or circumcising.

There seems to be a lot of putting fingers in ears and singing "lallallala I can't hear you " on this thread!

Why? Because people have said it is nobody else's business what they do with their genitals?

It is nobody's business.

I hadnt thought before about MN itself being the "society pressure" about an issue. Interesting.

I was going to say more or less what BoffinMum said. Some of us reacted against the prevailing wisdom in the 80s which was to be shaved (and have an enema ) before giving birth.

Personally, I don't remove body hair. My feeling is that it's there for a reason; but each to their own. I have no real idea what my daughters' do about theirs. And it is completely up to them.

I only hope that no one feels pressured in to doing anything that they don't want to do. But I imagine that's a forlorn hope. I think that there is more pressure to conform than there was when I was a teen and in my 20s.

Geez will you give it a rest with pubic hair threads. What i do with my body is my business and not to be shared with strangers on the internet.

Oh and by the way the only time i have ever felt any pressure to do anything in any way is when i read threads on here about why i must not shave, why i must not do my husbands washing or packing, why i must not buy him socks or pants or why i must not take his names. The list of things other women are telling me to do far outways anything any man has ever asked of me.

'Oh well

Just tell your DD to completely ignore any mad ranters, who tell her what she should or shouldn't do with her own personal hair.

It's no-one else's business, including your'

This. And yes, I do have a daughter.

I remove all the body hair I can except a landing strip and have been doing so for years.

I like it. I like how I feel without it. I was very hairy naturally and I didn't like it in the hot as hell climate I grew up in.

Now, I prefer it. Especially the sex part.

There, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I find myself agreeing with curlew an awful lot these days.

Krazy, I am perimenopausal and get hot flushes and night sweats, so I know what you mean! I honk without my daily shower and prescription anti-perspirant, so have no desire to grow my body hair on top of that. The hair on my head is relatively short, too.

Expat That's awesome because you like - you aren't doing it because anyone else expects it and that is the point.

I think what Curlew is trying to get across is that she doesn't want her daughter to think that not removing hair is dirty because it bloody well isn't.

"Oh and by the way the only time i have ever felt any pressure to do anything in any way is when i read threads on here about why i must not shave, why i must not do my husbands washing or packing, why i must not buy him socks or pants or why i must not take his names. The list of things other women are telling me to do far outways anything any man has ever asked of me."

This. I hate the term 'sisterhood' unless, you know, I'm talking about my sister, but there is no sisterhood on MN at all because we spend all day posting shit like this to judge each other.

Whether SAHM/WAHM Breast/Bottle Shave/Natural Fuck/Shit we argue about it instead of saying 'hey, do what you want.'

It's fucking stupid.

Well, then let curlew teach her daughter that.

Others are saying they remove theirs and they prefer it and it's no one's business what they do with their own hair.

Quite right.

Remove it/keep it.

Dye it green and put beads in it.

Couldn't give a stuff.

The problem in a nut shell is:

money to be made from making people think that body hair is dirty = billions

money to be made from making people think that body hair is fine as it comes = 0

I looked to see what evidence there was that armpit hair makes you sweat more, and found a forum with:

Answer 1 (from a doctor): There is no evidence that having armpit hair makes you sweat more.

Answer 2 (also supposedly from a doctor): You can help reduce your sweaty smelly armpit problem by removing the hair. Why not try out my laser hair removal service.

See how the second answer not only tries to convince you that you have a problem that you never actually said you did, but then tries to sell you something?

The actual factually correct answer is 1 btw....

yeah well one member of the MN 'sisterhood' already informed me in no uncertain terms that I am smelly and disgusting and people hate it when they come in a room with me...all because I don't shave my pits.

She doesn't know me....but she feels perfectly able to insult me in this way and try to undermine my confidence in my own choice.

So apparently you choice is other peoples business if your choice is not to shave...

Ooo, I'd love to buy an at home IPL kit! One of my Lotto fantasies. And I'd get my face done professionally. I'd have Botox, too. And dental implants where I lost some molars. And get the other crap ones yanked out and have implants.

What makes the smell isn't the sweat anyway. It's bacteria that like damp dark places.

What pisses me off is when a grown woman (pregnant and non pregnant) asks for advice about removing body hair on here and a whole bunch of posters pop telling her she doesn't need to do it . Surely a woman with a brain has made her own life choices and doesn't need to be told that what she's doing is stupid and wrong.

Also, it's worse when the woman is pregnant and already feeling conscious about her changing body and is told that she's stupid for wanting to remove hair (even if she's been doing it for years). Who has the right to tell another adult what they should and shouldn't do just for the sake of their own growing daughters?! I don't know about you, but I'll teach my daughter to be open and honest with me and I certainly won't be prying into her life asking her if she removes her pubic hair or not, because it will be none of my business, as it should be.

So much furore over a private bodily part that isn't even ever on display. Ridiculous.

Is removing pubic hair really the norm amongst teenagers now? I find that quite sad. I hope my girls won't feel they have to. I thought removing pubic hair was a minority (adult) trend. Didn't realise it was a norm :-(

Fakebook if you come to MN asking for an opinion you are going to get a shed load of different views. Par for the course.

Surely if you are secure enough in your decision to shave/not to shave then you will ignore the posts irrelevant to you and listen to the advice you find most helpful?

Good points cantspel and Tee.
Its easy to get sucked into a particular mindset or group without even really realising it. Oh the irony!

Why give irrelevant advice to someone just to show your disapproval? Seems pointless and childish to me. When someone asks how to remove hair, they're not looking for different views on the matter or opinions. They're looking for techniques on how to do it.

I am very secure with my choices and have never felt the need to ask for advice on how to do it, but other women have and I find it rude when a discussion is derailed.

AlpacaLunch have not read all the thread but your post made me snigger copiously.

It's usually the same when someone posts asking about formula feeding advice though - you'll get some militant type telling the OP how they shouldn't even be FF because it is evil and wrong.

Some people are always going to be disproving though aren't they? Even if you choose to shave instead of wax?

I understand where you are coming from and personally, I wouldn't go posting on a question in style and beauty about the benefits of waxing/shaving/sugaring/threading with a "don't do it" type post - but if someone asks an opinion of whether its hygienic/aesthetically pleasing etc etc then yes, maybe i would post my opinion.

Isn't disapproving of others choices what MNers do best anyway?

This forum is much too big to expect a thread to stay on its original question or point anymore.