AIBU to think that organ donation should be opt in not opt out

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Wales is introducing an 'opt out' for organ donation.Scotland is watching to see if it's worth doing

Personally I don't think this is right

It's taking bits of a humans body without consent

The reasons I am not an organ donor are thus,

there are far too many people who have a dontated organs and change there behaviour and start displaying charactistics of the organ donars personality

I do not want anyone ever to think it's ok to take a bit of my body and put it in someone else and if it wanted it too happen I would tell yes , i'm an organ donor .

But if I don't want it to happen I do not think I hould have to sign a form saying my organs are not harvestable

Yabu, i think this is a brilliant idea and will save hundreds if not thousands of lifes. Once you are dead you are dead, your soul is eternal.

Why waste healthy organs that can save someone, i just don't get your point op, sorry! If you feel so strongly opt out.

I didn't know they still needed consent from next of kin, even if you have opted in. Luckily dh knows my wishes on the subject.

I do agree that it should be opt in.

I think that the assumption that people will want to donate unless they specify otherwise is wrong.

Would be interested to know what difference it does make in an area though.

And if people who were previously donors opted out.

I also agree that the NOK shouldn't be able to say no if someone is already a donor.

What if someone opted out but for some reason their organs were taken?

Is it better that someone who wanted to donate doesn't rather than someone who didn't does iyswim?

If the op thinks thata donated organ can change a person's personality. would someone with the capacity for intelligent thought be prepared to donate her a kidney or something and see if it makes her any less dim?

soupdragon I don't think that should actually be the case at all - it was frustration at the people who are against donating but who would, I'm sure, happily accept a donation if the need arose! Just double standards.
Of course I believe treatment should be on a need basis.

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From Wiki: , Germany, which uses an opt-in system, has an organ donation consent rate of 12% among its population, while Austria, a country with a very similar culture and economic development, but which uses an opt-out system, has a consent rate of 99.98%.

No difference there then?

For those of you saying that there should be widespread public debate I live in Wales. Even though I was expecting & having DD during the consultation period for the opt out system so was pretty self absorbed distracted at the time. I still noticed the opt out debate on the news, notices for public meetings (work in Cardiff where a few were held), etc. There were public meetings held nationwide by the Welsh Assembly over a couple of months during the consultation period, the Church in Wales held a public debate in the centre of Cardiff, and a quick google search shows me that there was a previous consultation period 3 years earlier. It's been pretty hard to miss the debate during that length of time. In fact, looking at the articles discussing the debate (this for one) it sounds like the number of organ donations increased in Wales during this time - per million people, Wales currently has a deceased donor rate of 27.7, compared to the UK average of 16.3 - so maybe it has increased the profile of organ donation overall.

I'm glad someone raised the point that even if a person is registered to be a donor, the next of kin must agree to honour their wishes. Apparently, it's quite common for families to dither and initially refuse consent then later change their minds - unfortunately, by then it's usually too late. As cheerful said, I've always made sure my family are aware of my wishes.

When I shuffle off this mortail coil, I plan to be cremated anyway, so what difference is a few ounces of ash going to make? If there's anything worthwhile to be made use of, I'm not going to need it so

YABU. You still have a choice on whether or not to donate. People who feel strongly that they do not want to will make that choice actively. Those that aren't bothered either way will not have to do anything which will save lives. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

diddl

Spain has an opt out system. British patients waiting for a kidney have been known to move to Spain because they are more likely (I think 4 times, but that's a vague recollection, someone will correct me) to get a transplant.

"There are far too many people who have a dontated organs and change there behaviour and start displaying charactistics of the organ donars personality" I would literally LOVE to see the reference for this.

I don't see where the consent issue lies. If you don't consent, opt out.

And what ohmeohmyforgotlogin said.

I'm all for an opt out policy rather than opt in. I think it's great it is assumed that people would wish to help others though they have died themselves.

I was thinking about opt in being preferable as was sort of thinking that opt out "tricks" the apathetic.

But as long as people are aware & opting out is easy, it doesn't really, does it?

Perhaps people would rather have the decision made for them?

YABU. It is opt in now, and not enough people do it.
It should be opt out.

OP sounding like a total loon. Might have a point if there wasn't any choice, but if you don't agree with organ donation you can opt out. Simples. Most people who are in the 'haven't thought about it' category are probably happy to donate but under the current system they wouldn't have actively opted in. An opt out system increases the pool of donations which can only be a good thing.

I haven't gone onto the register, but I will be I think. I want to keep my eyes and my heart, because it belongs to my husband and my babies

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