AIBU to think that organ donation should be opt in not opt out

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Wales is introducing an 'opt out' for organ donation.Scotland is watching to see if it's worth doing

Personally I don't think this is right

It's taking bits of a humans body without consent

The reasons I am not an organ donor are thus,

there are far too many people who have a dontated organs and change there behaviour and start displaying charactistics of the organ donars personality

I do not want anyone ever to think it's ok to take a bit of my body and put it in someone else and if it wanted it too happen I would tell yes , i'm an organ donor .

But if I don't want it to happen I do not think I hould have to sign a form saying my organs are not harvestable

I don't understand playing god arguments.
If there is a god then clearly it is part of the plan that we have the ability to do these things, isn't it?
If there is no god then its all down to us so no problem there either.

No if someone consents to their organs being donated that is right and good.

However you cant just assume everyone's body is there to be used without giving consent

I'm with Soda on this! Cutting parts out of dead people, or almost dead people, and putting them into new bodies is beyond barbaric to me. So I will not ask for this for myself, ever. Natural death is just that: natural. No one gets out of here alive, and I've seen way too many people kept alive in extreme circumstances. It benefits no one.

Another thought I've had is that no one should get the expensive organ transplants until everyone can get at last a basic level of healthcare - I'm in the States where that is just not happening. Why should one person have an extravagant amount of money and time and effort made to keep them alive, even if they're not contributing anything to society or their families, and others who could really be helped more get nothing?

But they give consent by not opting out.
That is consent.

If you're happy for us to go ahead then you need do nothing, if you would prefer to opt out, sign here.
That's consent.

I personally think that discovering life saving medicine is part of our evolution. Your body is only really a shell, you don't need it after you die so it seems only right that it should be used to help others. I imagine most people would take comfort following the loss of a loved one knowing that their loss had allowed others to live.

The Right to Life trumps Liberties.

I'd come back & haunt anyone who stopped my organs being donated. But I have no problem if anyone else chooses to opt out, it's their body.

My dad had a stroke & came out with an American accent. More medical woo-ness.

It doesn't matter what happens to our bodies. We're not in them anymore. You could save someone life. Empty me out and pop me in a biodegradable body bag and be done with it.

'I'm with Soda on this! Cutting parts out of dead people, or almost dead people, and putting them into new bodies is beyond barbaric to me.'

Tell that to the thousands of people whose lives have been saved through organ donation.

To be perfectly frank, anyone who describes organ donation as 'beyond barbaric' has a screw loose.

YABU. If you dont want in then opt out. its not rocket science! you havent even put forward a credible intelligent argument. its an insult to all those waiting on organs, willing to give organs and indeed the highly trained staff giving the transplant care!

I can't believe in the 21st century, people still think like this..

I just think it should be 'opt in' rather than opt out'

If your child could have an organ that would save it's life, would you accept it Soda?
And what about blood donations or bone marrow?

I think it should be opt out. If you really don't want to donate any organs and feel that strongly you will opt out. Easy.

Wow. Are there really people who think keeping someone alive, in a way which allows them a normal life instead of being kept alive through other means, is 'barbaric'?

I never cease to be amazed at the strange things some people believe. It seems so straightforward - we have brains, we use them to develop medicines, people's lives improve. We adjust our social norms to view the new possibilities as being good. Like not smoking, or wearing a seat belt, most people recognise that a tiny loss of liberty for a few people (the freedom to not have your organs taken after death without having to spend 5 minutes online joining a register) vs lots of people having healtier and longer lives is an obvious one. But not everyone. Bizarre.

I'm not strongly against an opt out system, but I do prefer it to be opt in.

With an opt in system any organ recipients will know they have been given a gift that someone wanted to give.

I would be very reluctant to take an organ if I needed one with an opt out system in place, because there would be no way of knowing whether the person who the organ belongs to actually wanted to give it away. I couldn't live with that I don't think.

Just as there are people that agree with organ donation that don't get round to signing up, there will be people who had intended to opt out but that never got the chance.

If you really don't want to donate any organs and feel that strongly you will opt out. Easy.

Surely the same sentiment can be said to people who do want to donate?

If you want to gift your organs to someone else, then you will join the register.

I don't understand how a word that means primative, savage, unsophisticated,.. can be used to describe a process whereby vital organs from one person are removed and successfully integrated into the body of another where they function for that person.

Yes, but an opt in scheme means less lives will be saved.

just opt out then, do you really have to start such an offensive thread airing your dirty laundry?

and yes, my sister had a transplant which kept her alive for a few more years. I do hope those of you who think it is barbaric and abnormal never have to see one of your own children or relatives go through any serious chronic illness. I would like to see how strongly you feel about it then, when it's your child in need

Most people just don't THINK about it/discuss it though and it leaves the decision in the hands of their bereaved love ones in the event. Opting out gives the impetus, to a) think about it b) make your wishes clear to your family in a way opting in doesn't.

My child died.

My child neither opted in nor out of the process.

My child saved one life, at least, and greatly enhanced 2 lives.

Anyone that can read the letters I got and call the process barbaric or complain because my child was too young to consent is a fuckwit.

I wasn't going to post this but you attitude is pissing me off tbh. There isn't a parent out there that would have refused an organ in the situations those children were in.

there are far too many people who have a dontated organs and change there behaviour and start displaying charactistics of the organ donars personality

What the fuck?

I conclude this OP is a covert attempt to convice people that everyone who objects to the opt-out system is very, very, very strange.

I can't imagine how hurtful it must be for you to read some of these posts mynameisslimshady.

The decision you made was the most selfless that any parent could make. I'm sure your child is remembered every day by the person whose life they saved.

Cross post.

myname, what a humbling post.

I'm angry you had to read this crass thread.

Yanbu. I have a donor card. I do not like an opt out system.