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AIBU to think that organ donation should be opt in not opt out

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SodaStreamy · 12/07/2013 16:41

Wales is introducing an 'opt out' for organ donation.Scotland is watching to see if it's worth doing

Personally I don't think this is right

It's taking bits of a humans body without consent

The reasons I am not an organ donor are thus,

there are far too many people who have a dontated organs and change there behaviour and start displaying charactistics of the organ donars personality

I do not want anyone ever to think it's ok to take a bit of my body and put it in someone else and if it wanted it too happen I would tell yes , i'm an organ donor .

But if I don't want it to happen I do not think I hould have to sign a form saying my organs are not harvestable

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SauvignonBlanche · 12/07/2013 17:28

YABVU!
there are far too many people who have a dontated organs and change there behaviour and start displaying charactistics of the organ donars personality ??!! What a pile of fucking mindless shite! Angry

LadyBeagleEyes · 12/07/2013 17:29

Sad for you and Angry about the thickos out there mynameis.
I have no words to say how much I admire people like you.Flowers

Choccywoccydodah · 12/07/2013 17:29

YATBU! If you don't want to be involved then opt out, but god help you if you or your loved ones ever need a transplant.
2 of my cousins (sisters) have both had kidney transplants in the last 3 years, one has 2 kids, and thank god her ex (baby daddy) stepped up 2 weeks ago for the op!!

You're dead, why do you care! Totally selfish IMHO.

And 'playing god'?? Yeah, whatever!

ImTooHecsyForYourParty · 12/07/2013 17:30

I'm sorry for your loss, myname.
You gave an amazing gift. I hope it is of some tiny comfort to you.
It isn't a barbaric thing, its a wonderful thing, sorry that you are upset. X x

SodaStreamy · 12/07/2013 17:30

Owllady woah ....that's a bi harsh is it not

An offensive thread airing my dirty laundry ... you for real

Ok you so your sister had a transplant , that must have been scary to go through...however that does not make me a bad person for not wanting the government to think that my body is their's do what they want with when I'm dying.

I'm all for people who CONSENT to organ donation but I'm extremely unhappy with thinking that everyone's organs are up for graps unless we opt out

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SoupDragon · 12/07/2013 17:30

But if I don't want it to happen I do not think I hould have to sign a form saying my organs are not harvestable

If you felt strongly about it then you should make the effort to opt out.

Personally I find your opinions abhorrent though.

SoupDragon · 12/07/2013 17:33

my body should not been seen as a medical toy

The choices are that your body becomes a rotting pile of flesh or saves several lives. Toy is not an option.

squoosh · 12/07/2013 17:33

Saying organs are ?up for grabs? makes it sound as though they?ll be auctioned off to the highest bidder. The language you use does not aid your argument one bit.

Dackyduddles · 12/07/2013 17:35

My brother required an organ.

As a family we grappled with this as we felt we were asking for a child to die to save him.

Finally we realised people do die. Shit things happen to great people.

We always think it will happen to someone else so for that reason as people are lazy and don't get around to things I prefer you have to choose to opt out.

He died at 18nths. My mum never quite recovered.

Choccywoccydodah · 12/07/2013 17:36

SO OPT OUT THEN!!!!!!
As a pp said, some people just don't get around to opting IN, mainly because they probably don't really think about it, but if you really really don't want to do it then you WILL opt out.

SoupDragon · 12/07/2013 17:36

Modern medicine is trying to play god

I assume you never take anything like antibiotics or have any vaccines then.
I assume you would refuse all medical treatment if you sustained life threatening injuries in a car accident.
I assume you would never have a blood transfusion, dialysis or take insulin should you prove to be diabetic.

Choccywoccydodah · 12/07/2013 17:37

Some sad stories on here, so sorry about your losses, its truly awful :(

Choccywoccydodah · 12/07/2013 17:38

Well said soupdragon!!!!

Pobblewhohasnotoes · 12/07/2013 17:39

If you think modern medicine is playing God OP, I hope you opt out of taking antibiotics, paracetamol, going to see your GP or even wearing glasses. If you ever unfortunately get a disease than please refuse all treatment and when you're old refuse any BP meds, warfarin, beta blockers, meds for Alzheimer's or god forbid, a blood transfusion.

Organ transplants give people life.

Hmmkay · 12/07/2013 17:39

Exactly what choccywoccy said ^^

jessjessjess · 12/07/2013 17:41

YABU.

And you have clearly been watching too many sci-fi movies. People don't take on characteristics of the donor. Where on earth did you hear that?

SodaStreamy · 12/07/2013 17:42

abboherent........really

IT'S my BODY

If I die I want to die in the knowledge that MY body is still mine and it's up to me , not a government scheme to decide what to with it.

I don't want bits of me being taken out and put in someone else. That is my choice and if your all saying I'm wrong with that thought well that's up to you

But you should have to opt in not opt out. Our bodies are our's not the states to decide that they can harvest our body if we don't explicitly give consent

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AmandaLF · 12/07/2013 17:42

Yabvu.

You've also not answered several people who have asked if it was your child would you not agree to a transplant for them?

BeyonceCastle · 12/07/2013 17:44
Biscuit
mynameisslimshady · 12/07/2013 17:46

Its exactly because of people like the op that I don't tell anyone that I donated my childs organs anymore.

Lots of 'well meaning' people have said 'I could never give bits of my child away' or asked how I felt knowing bits of my child were walking around out there or asking how I could bear my child being hacked up like that Angry

Not one of the people who told me they would have refused to donate would have refused to accept though.

Without being too blunt, it makes no odds to me, my child isn't here anymore, and hasn't been for years now, but that choice I made back then has impacted positively on the recipients, their parents, siblings, classmates, aunties, uncles, grandparents, and one day their spouses and children and grandchildren etc. How can that be called barbaric?

Thank you for your thoughts Thanks

Choccywoccydodah · 12/07/2013 17:46

SO FUCKING OPT OUT!!!!!!!!! Jesus, if you're really not capable of even doing that, I wouldn't want your fucking organs!!!!

And for the comment from the American further up, your health care system is a whooooole other thing compared to the UK. I've got so many friends in the US, and am very glad I live here.

Panzee · 12/07/2013 17:46

It's the thin end of the wedge.
All medical procedures are and should be with express consent. If organ donation becomes opt out, what is next?

I have opted in to donate. I believe that is how we should do it.

OddBoots · 12/07/2013 17:50

It's not about giving it to the state unless they start selling off spares, it's about giving back to society, other people not some system.

Opting out means people are more inclined to think about their wishes rather than passing it off as a 'something for the future' thing.

Is it actually the fact you'd need to have your wishes (that if you can't use it then no-one else is allowed to either) recorded about you which is making you uncomfortable?

kukeslala · 12/07/2013 17:53

Well if this comes to your area- OPT OUT.

Many people dont get round to the "opt in" and its one of those things on their to do list, however would have no problem donating.

People who dont want to donate, will make it a priority to "opt out".

Personally I think UABU.

sazzle82 · 12/07/2013 17:53

You really haven't explained why you feel everyone should have to opt in not opt out. Sure, you don't want to do it, fine opt out. Why is that such a problem for you? I imagine it would take less time than going through this thread.

The reason this is needed is because there aren't enough organs being donated. Not because people don't want to, but because people don't think to register as you don't think it will happen to you, and those that do can still have their wishes overridden by family (not sure if this new rule prevents this tbh).

Having recently lost my MIL and having seen the comfort it brought my FIL when he read the letters about what her organs had been used for I think it has huge benefits for society as a whole, not just the recipient.

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