...about wee in the kitchen sink?

[stoopstofolly]

Genuinely don't know who is being unreasonable in this situation! I was visiting neighbour. We all live in tall terraced houses, with no downstairs loo. Her DD is potty training, so there was a potty in the kitchen, on a mat. DD used the potty- then her Mum emptied it in the kitchen sink and washed it away with water.
I was a bit (shock). She saw my face, and explained that wee is actually sterile when it comes out, which explains why you can drink it (if you want!) and that she puts bleach down the sink every evening, and doesn't ever use the sink for anything except getting water, as all dirty pots go in dishwasher, and she doesn't do handwashing! Plus- it was only a little girl fairy wee....
I felt that although it's not something I would do, I could see her point. However, when I told DP he was appalled, and is now refusing to go round there next weekend for the BBQ we've been invited to. Says he wouldn't enjoy the food! I've pointed out that it's unlikely she'll marinade the sausages in the sink, but he won't be budged.
So- is she unreasonable for tipping wee in the sink?
Am I unreasonable really not to care?
Or is DP unreasonable for being horrified and refusing to go round?

DP has agrees to listen to Mumsnet jury!
Thanks for reading!

[threefeethighandrising]

I wouldn't do it myself, but not going to their house is way OTT.

From Wikipedia:

"Urine is sterile until it reaches the urethra, where epithelial cells lining the urethra are colonized by facultatively anaerobic Gram negative rods and cocci ....

Healthy urine is not toxic. However, it contains compounds eliminated by the body as undesirable, and can be irritating to skin and eyes. After suitable processing it is possible to extract potable water from urine."

[meddie]

To be fair I,ve been drinking urine every weekend for 30 years and I,m fine. except around her we call it Budweiser

[livinginwonderland]

Have to correct the people saying urine is sterile! It is before it reaches the urethra - once it's out of the body, it's not!

[threefeethighandrising]

DP (usually an intelligent man) couldn't understand why I absolutely flipped when I discovered him cleaning dog-pooh off a shoe at the kitchen sink.

I should have set some of you on him! Wee is fairly harmless, but dog poo is seriously dangerous!!! (Have moved since then :) )

[trice]

It wouldn't bother me at all. Toddler is unlikely to have a communicable disease.

I take it your dp isn't into oral see op? (bringing the thread down).

[sleepyhead]

And yet, and yet... even that fearsome dog poo is rendered helpless in the face of soap and water .

Seriously, bacteria aren't nearly as hardy and long lived as some of you seem to think they are (thank fuck!).

[trice]

Dog poo is a different matter. Yuck.

[TravellingLemon]

Reminds me of the episode of the Royal Family "the Queen of Sheba" where Cheryl emptied Nannas catheter bag into a sinkful of dirty dishes

[teenagetantrums]

wouldn't bother me she cleans the sink, sinks and dish cloths are full of bacteria, but then im a bit slack i don't wash fruit and veg before we eat them either. Sometimes if someone is in the bath we wash our hands in the Kitchen sink after using our toilet which does not have a sink how is it different?

[THERhubarb]

"Urine is sterile until it reaches the urethra, where epithelial cells lining the urethra are colonized by facultatively anaerobic Gram negative rods and cocci.[4] Subsequent to elimination from the body, urine can acquire strong odors due to bacterial action,[citation needed] and in particular the release of ammonia from the breakdown of urea.

Healthy urine is not toxic.[6] However, it contains compounds eliminated by the body as undesirable, and can be irritating to skin and eyes. After suitable processing it is possible to extract potable water from urine." Wikipedia the font of all knowledge.

I think your dh is being a little precious however. Does he refuse to use other people's toilets? Does he inspect their hands before accepting food and drinks from them?

If this woman generally keeps good hygiene then I see no reason to throw a wobbly over this. Sinks are used for far worse things such as:

Washing shoes that have dog shit all over them
Washing hands that have urine/shit on them
Having raw chicken juice poured down them (a ripe source of salmonella)
Rinsing off toxic paint from brushes

I mean just think about what has been poured down your sink over the years. A bit of a child's wee is neither here nor there.

As long as she's not trying to ram bits of poo down the plughole then I really don't see the problem.

[Mintyy]

Lol at everyone being so sanguine about a potty ful of pee down the sink. Op's friend is lazy, lazy, lazy and has extremely slack standards.

Mind you, who remembers the thread where a Mumsnetter allowed her ds to wee in a plastic cup at toddler group, threw the wee down the sink, rinsed the cup under the tap and put it back in the cupboard! And she came on here all upset because someone had told her that that wasn't on.

[gotthemoononastick]

But Rhubarb,this is the KITCHEN sink.Fine if there is a utility sink or one outside... golly! who does all these that you mention?

[THERhubarb]

Or the one where the Mumsnetter couldn't get to the toilet in time so crapped in her own sink.




Or did I just make that one up?

I'm sure there must be some sink shitting threads somewhere?

[THERhubarb]

yeah KITCHEN SINK where raw chicken juice goes along with many other raw meat juices - do you have any idea how dangerous raw chicken juice is?

And who takes shoes full of dog crap upstairs to the bathroom sink? No-one, they sneakily rinse it off in the kitchen sink when you aren't looking.

If you are that paranoid, get a washing up bowl. (Just make sure your dh/dp doesn't use it for mixing concrete)

[Mintyy]

Why would raw chicken juice go in the kitchen sink?

[jacks365]

If I'm opening a pack with raw chicken or any other raw meat I do it over the empty sink rather than get raw juices all over my work surface.

[gotthemoononastick]

Laughing at Rhubarb trying to shock...if I were young and could swear online, I would say "you're sh....ng me!"The one of the accident in the sink sounds like an urban legend!

[farewellfigure]

Ha ha THERhubarb. Squishing a poo down the plughole is called waffle stomping. Fact. Not that anyone in our house has EVER done that apart from when DS has accidentally let one slip out in the bath

[stoopstofolly]

Goodness. I had no idea about most of this..... Mumsnet truly is a fount of bacterial knowledge! The thought of poo on my toothbrush is very disturbing- have just bleached all the door handles and ordered toothbrush covers!
Having said that DP has decided to come to BBQ. I pointed out that (wee aside) our neighbours are lovely people- funny and kind- and that their older children have been brilliant with our littler ones. He's agreed that their general loveliness outweighs wee in the sink. Although he's only eating things straight off the BBQ or out of a sealed packet- no salads or anything that might have been washed. He also thinks that drinking plenty of Rioja will help sterilise things!

[THERhubarb]

Oh I had to shit in the bath when I was preggers with ds. It was the only way it would come out!

I have no shame!

Didn't a Mumsnetter on one of those guests from hell threads talk about her parents waking up to find a guest squatting over the sink in their bedroom?

I pour meat juices down the sink, where does yours go Mintyy? Don't tell me you drink it???

All kinds of things have been poured down our KITCHEN sink. I blame its close proximity to the garden. Bad design.
I did get a washing up bowl which dh finds very useful for almost every DIY project imaginable. And yes, I did buy him his own bowl but the one in the kitchen is just there you see, whereas the one I bought him is in the shed, a whole 2 metres away!

[THERhubarb]

Tell him to rinse his mouth out with vodka. That ought to do it. And just watch out for their kids doing a shit in the kitchen, it might become mixed up with the BBQ sausages.

[THERhubarb]

Just as an aside, I wonder why I hardly get any visitors to our house?

[gotthemoononastick]

Good for him OP!! The wine will definitely make it all acceptable.Take extra meat in case everything is already open.

[bragmatic]

I thought it was sterile. All my life I've been waiting for someone to sustain a nasty injury in a remote area so I could drop my daks and wee on it.