The daughter I knew is dead - what a thing say!

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Can't help but think that the mother's words and attitude to her daughter, and apparently they don't speak, could be as damaging as Jeremy Forrest's behaviour towards her.
Am I unreasonable in thinking this??

[5madthings]

And yes i will jump on victim blaming bullshit.

[THERhubarb]

There are other pupils now coming forward to say that he got inappropriately close to them when they were as young as 13.

Seems Mr Forrest always had a thing for young girls.

[alreadytaken]

I don't normally bother with AIBU, seeing it as the sicker part of the site - this thread just proves that.

A predatory sex offender preys on a vulnerable child and takes her away from her family. For days they don't know if she is alive or dead. Of course the mother is a victim, less so than the girl but she suffered all the time her child was missing and is still suffering now the child is back. There is no way a mother grieving for the damage this man has done to their child can do as much harm as the man who caused the problem. Yes you are unreasonable and are lacking in any empathy unless you are male and empathise with sex offenders.

[5madthings]

Yes mrsdevereI agree its just like, 'its not her fault but.... Insert she shouldn't have had a drink/worn a short skirt' etc etc. Its bollocks and I will call it bullshit.

[THERhubarb]

He waited until she turned 15 before he started having sex with her. So she was just turned 15 and not nearly 16, when he started sexually abusing her.

His relationship with her started at the age of 13 I believe.

I think when you compare a vulnerable, troubled teenager to a married, adult man, the differences are very clear.

She was still in school, still living with her parents, not had a serious boyfriend before and no real experiene of life.
He'd had several jobs, several girlfriends, been married, had kids, got a mortgage and had plenty of life experience.

Only a complete arsehole would think that she was just as much to blame.
Fancy leading him on with her school uniform and everything, him just a poor man unable to keep his dick in his pants everytime a schoolgirl came near. It's not his fault there are so many seductive teenagers around is it?

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Alreadytaken - Where is the mother now when the daughter needs her? I think the mother needs to get her mind off herself and on to how it might feel for the daughter. It would appear that the poor girl has been abandoned just because she's upset and all over the place, and this could be damaging for the girl.

I have no empathy for sex offenders btw - don't be so silly.

[Dawndonna]

I love how I'm jumped on for having a different opinion! It really is pathetic.
What is pathetic about asking you to justify your opinion, as I have done?

[THERhubarb]

According to newspaper reports, before this incident he would ask 13 year old girls to stay behind after class and would "cuddle" them. He had already gried to groom another 13 year old by sending her cards, cuddling her, giving her extra tuition after class and inviting her to watch him perform with his band.

He's just another paedophile.

But let's hear again about how it's all her fault that, at the age of 13 and clearly vulnerable, a teacher she has a crush on starts to take an interest in her, holds her hand, pens songs to her and kisses her outside school.

Yeah, she really initiated all of that at the age of 13.

Is there no more a pathetic example of humanity than a paedophile sympathiser?

[maristella]

Oh my goodness, of course the poor lass is not to blame!
The extent of his grooming of her is plain for all to see.

IF he really loved her, which still wouldn't be right, he would be doing everything in his power to support her relationships with her family. But he hasn't. Grooming paedophiles don't want their victim to have a loving supportive family.
IF he really loved her, he would have waited until she was an adult. But he's a grooming paedophile and he knew that if he didn't act he would have seen her turn her attention to boys her own age.

Nasty fucking paedophile. Glad he's locked up, hope it's hell for him. But more importantly I hope she gets the intensive therapy she needs to disentangle from him.

[DamnDeDoubtance]

If the victim had been a boy there would be no ambiguity at all.

because she is a girl she must be partially responsible, cos gosh you know what girls can be like.

[maristella]

I didn't know about him cuddling 13 year olds

Predatory fucking paedophile

[comedycentral]

Read the whole statement. I feel sorry for her.

[burberryqueen]

Have you ever heard the phrase 'it takes two to tango'?
inane cliched drivel, 'noobynoob' - fgs he was her TEACHER she was 13 or 14.

[NoobyNoob]

Rape - being made to have sex un-willingly

In this case - admitting you were the one who suggested going to France, being quite happy about the fact, not calling said parents to let them know she was alive, admitting she was in love with him.

Difference, no?

[SomeDizzyWhore1804]

Not getting into this here Noobynoob but I couldn't read your ignorant comments without stopping to say that your opinions are fucking disgusting and if you want to spout your victim blaming bullshit maybe take it to the comments section of the Daily Fail website rather than here.

[NoobyNoob]

Oh my fucking CHRIST!!! I'm not blaming her totally and unreservedly.

I'm saying that she couldn't have been that bothered by it if she willing went ahead with this whole relationship.

[THERhubarb]

Nooby - I would love to tell you what I think of your ignorant, ill-thought out statements but that would get me banned.

I'm so pleased you are an authority on rape.

Of course, as a 15 year old schoolgirl it was all her fault. Of course at 15 years old she arranged for her own passport to go to France, she booked the ferry, she hired the car, she drove them to Bordeaux, she booked the accommodation. What a little seductress she is!

He was dragged along quite reluctantly as it happens. The fact that he used his wife's passport for her was mere coincidence. The fact that he didn't pick up the phone to let her parents know that she was safe (as most adults in that situation would have done with a runaway child) was also not his fault.

He was an adult with a lifetime of experience behind him. She was a vulnerable runaway child.

What do you do with a runaway child? Tell their parents? Tell the police? No, you have sex with them of course!

[5madthings]

What mrsdevere said.

She didn't give consent, she was groomed and manipulated by a predatory man who was supposed to look after her.

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MrsDeVere.

I'm most bothered that the mother is estranged from her daughter.

I agree that she may not be saying she's 'dead' to her - as in that she wants nothing to do with her..

[NoobyNoob]

Too young? I lost my virginity before 16 and I was well aware of what I was doing.

I would really appreciate it if people could stop with the whole apologist for sex offenders shite. It's offensive and it's not what I'm doing. I'm giving an opinion of how I see the story.