The daughter I knew is dead - what a thing say!

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Can't help but think that the mother's words and attitude to her daughter, and apparently they don't speak, could be as damaging as Jeremy Forrest's behaviour towards her.
Am I unreasonable in thinking this??

I agree with Sash.

And from his recent comments today, the bio father sounds awful, and Forrest's family even worse.

They're minimising and justifying his actions. They even blame the ex wife, ffs. Imagine if they were your ex in laws!

sashh this was a victim statement - a statement for the court about the impact of the crime on the mother. So of course it was about how a sexual predator had damaged the mother's relationship with her daughter and how that made her feel. The mother's relationship with the child will not be rebuilt while the child is still being groomed and lied to by the predator.

At the moment the child thinks this is love. When she eventually realises that if this man loved her he would have waited until she was an adult she will hopefully rebuild her relationship with her mother. As for the father saying he sees nothing wrong in them being together - that sort of attitude goes some way to explaining why the parents aren't still together.

"So perhaps the because she loves her daughter she is willing to sacrifice her relationship with her in order to get this bastard sent down for as long as possible"

And what was she doing while her daughter was seeing this bastard before they ran away. I think the girl was majorly let down by her parents.

So the father, who has had nothing to do with her upbringing, is the third party who has been acting as go between - is that the implication.

God. Poor girl.

Nooo- the father as the go between? God, I really don't want it to be true.

It is coming across like the parent she's really been let down by is her dad.

Lazy - apparently she was calling the teacher, trying to find out whether it was true, and the lying hound lied to her.

Why are people so keen to blame the mother, rather than a. the abuser b. the school (that has had two other cases of child abuse including allowing the chair of governors to stay on even after he'd been charged), c. if you must blame a relative, Forrest's family who are 'standing by him' ?

Apparently he's all over the gutter press this morning saying he'd be happy to walk her down the aisle.

I also read that Forrest's parents have allowed the letter she wrote to them to be published.

If true this is absolutely sickening.

He being the girl's father.

Some sickening things being said on this thread.

JF is blatantly 'into' early to mid-teen girls, as evidenced by his earlier attempts at grooming other 13 year-olds. My concern for the poor girl left behind at this point is that by the time he's released from prison she will already be too old for his tastes. I hope she gets counselling (at the very least) and learns to move on from him while he serves his pathetically short sentence.

Also worryingly is that he's not going to change. He will (most likely) never have that position of authority again, but he will find ways (don't they always?) of worming his way into the affections of some vulnerable young girl somewhere down the line. His family support him? Her father supports him? His choices and decisions are being, and probably will continue to be, validated. Scary.

As for the Mother's statement. I read it above. At no point does she come across as saying her daughter is dead to her. She's obviously mourning the loss of her daughters innocence, the trusting, close relationship they once had. She feels helpless and guilty. She obviously loves her daughter fiercely. How are people missing this?

And as for the whole 'two to tango' thing. Sick, sick, sick. Victim blaming at its worst. Disgraceful.

Heartbroken, yes totally agree and well put.

And what was she doing while her daughter was seeing this bastard before they ran away.

Bollocking her daughter for spreading rumours. That's what Forrest told her mother, he was doing nothing wrong, her daughter was attention seeking.

Oh and calling the police when she heard a rumour there were pictures of Forrest on her daughter's phone.

Yes, lets not forget that her mum spoke to JF and he denied the rumours and said her daughter was a liar and a trouble maker!

Some posters have found a JF Facebook fan page that has been set up by his sister and apparently they are friends with the girl on FB

I don't know how his family can dare to behave in the way they are. It would certainly explain a lot..

IS the girl too old for social services involvement? I assumed they would have been involved when she first returned to the UK, but maybe I'm being naive.

Erm - I know she's nearly at the age of consent and everything, but surely, surely it's not ok that she is able to be contacted by her abuser from his prison cell??

Sounds like her own father and his family are all complicit in the grooming now Awful, awful situation. I do think ss should be involved.

Ss got involved with my 15yo in similar circumstances because I asked them to.

It's shocking to me how many people close to her are supporting his abuse of her.

Her mother seems to be the only person close to her who wants to protect her.

I hope the girl is getting professional counselling and support.

I can almost understand his family. He seems to be a plausible liar, if he managed to convince even his victim's mother that his victim was the one to blame. His family would want to believe it was a love-story rather than abuse. And nobody would want to think that their child, brother, etc, was capable of this. I think it's quite common for people to react like this, because they just don't want to believe it of someone they love.

But it's still not good enough and I'm not making excuses for them. Their ages, his marriage, his position as her teacher, the other allegations that he tried to groom other girls, so much to weigh against him.

I pity this woman and her daughter. She has lost her daughter for now, possibly forever, because her daughter hates her and wants nothing to do with her.

And the daughter either has a lifetime of abuse at his hands still to come, while the people who are supposed to care about her support him and allow him to continue it. Or she has a terrible realisation that she is a victim who has surrounded herself with abuse-enablers and cut herself off from the one person who wants to protect her.

It's a terrible situation and I hope it's one that I never find myself and my child in. It must be a living nightmare.

I've seen the FB group and reported it as, if genuine, it appears that they are soliciting young girls to write to him in jail - not only that but they've put his parents address on there!

Words really fail me. What is wrong with these people?

"It's a terrible situation and I hope it's one that I never find myself and my child in. It must be a living nightmare."

I know Sarah. The whole thing is just awful :(

I've also reported the page - disgusting.

I just checked. His sister is friends with the girl on Facebook. His sister has also posted a few things prominently in support of Jeremy.

This family are vile apologists.

flippinada - "it appears that they are soliciting young girls to write to him in jail - not only that but they've put his parents address on there!"

Why would they do that? Unbelievable! Is that not something that the police could look into as well? Surely that must count as grooming or something as well?

And it is really awful. I remember when someone I used to work with came to work in bits, because their teenager had started using drugs and their personality had just changed overnight.

They had become involved with someone who was also using drugs and started to use them as well. My colleague had been arrested and held in a cell because they made an accusation of assault. Colleague had tried to grab their teenager by the arm in desperation and accidentally scratched them. Colleague said it was like a stranger standing in front of them, not the child they had always known before the drugs.

It scares me to think DS could change so rapidly, for any reason, drugs, abuse or anything else, and nothing I did to try and protect or help him would get through to him.

And it would destroy me to think other people were supporting him and telling him that everything was fine and lovely.

I really can understand why this mother feels the child she knew has died, because she really has been left with a stranger who hates her and has no idea if that will ever change.

It's heartbreak ing that the only person who is seeing this for what it is, is her mum, and she's turned against her. On top of that the poor woman is getting her words pulled apart left and right, what an awful situation.

Unfortunately, there seem to be plenty of adults in both families willing to normalize this, so the poor child will think her mum's obviously wrong as she's in the minority.

Sarah indeed they are - horrifying isn't it? I've taken a screenshot of the page and reported it to Sussex Police.

flippinada - good for you. I hope they can do something to get the page taken down and stop any more from being set up.