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Jeremy Forrest verdict - aibu to be confused?

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noddyboulder · 20/06/2013 14:54

Yep, I don't think even his own parents could deny he's a massive, hideous scumbag with no impulse control - but how can he have been found guilty of abduction when the girl he had an affair with said it was her idea to go to France and she went willingly?

Can somebody legal shed some light?

OP posts:
LilacPeony · 22/06/2013 18:41

Gahh! I wasn't agreeing that "Girls throw themselves at men and only have themselves to blame" Please see my other posts on this thread. I was agreeing that "If it was a female teacher with a male pupil it would not be seen as love. This is about the view of women and girls in this country." and saying the view of women and girls in this country is utterly depressing!

flippinada · 22/06/2013 18:41

I think soverylucky was being sarcastic, mocking the view that men can't help themselves and its the girl's fault.

Animation · 22/06/2013 18:42

"I think one of the really disturbing things about this is that he is still manipulating her."

Yes I agree. And mouthing "I love you" in court was definately a manipulative act of control.

LilacPeony · 22/06/2013 18:43

Why am I being called a silly mare? I know she was abused. It's what I've been arguing all along!

5madthings · 22/06/2013 18:45

I think people have misread yours and soveryluckys post lilac

LilacPeony · 22/06/2013 18:49

Well I hope people now understnad that i have only ever given the opinion on this thread that JF abused a child and that it is depressing that people are blaming her for it or saying it was a sweet love affair.

5madthings · 22/06/2013 18:51

I think its just with all the bolding and quoting meaning and emphasis can get a bit lost so it can be misinterpreted.

Dawndonna · 22/06/2013 18:51

Lilac I got it wrong, I apologise.

LilacPeony · 22/06/2013 18:54

No probs.

soverylucky · 22/06/2013 19:09

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merrymouse · 22/06/2013 19:48

Agree with others that if this had been a same sex couple or an older woman, nobody would be blaming the pupil. Ironically though, the under age girl situation is the only one where a teenager risks becoming pregnant, but its the most acceptable to society.

DuelingFanjo · 22/06/2013 23:33

Believe it or not there's actually a fan page on facebook with people who believe he has 'done nothing wrong' idiots.

5madthings · 22/06/2013 23:36

Weeps, I can't bring myself to click on the link.

Can we report the page and try and get it pulled?

5madthings · 22/06/2013 23:42

Ffs they have a pic of him on his wedding day with his wife!! I have commented..

I despair I really do.

DuelingFanjo · 22/06/2013 23:47

not only are they sneering at his wife on there but there are messages from his family including one which give's his mother's address (with her consent) and posts about how people can send letters to jeremy via his mother's address but that he is not allowed to have letters from anyone under the age of 18. it is shocking but i can't report it other than to say 'i don't like it'. it mention's the girl's name, which while i know it is in the public domain I am not sure it's legal.

Given that the police are investigating if she was coached it may be wise for the family to dis-associate themselves from the page. maybe I should report it to the police.

5madthings · 22/06/2013 23:49

I think it is illegal for the girl to be named? Yes report to the police. I saw thge comments from family....'raise a toast to Jeremy'. Honestly it makes me despair. I am waiting to see if my comment is removed...

5madthings · 22/06/2013 23:55

How can we report to police, is there an online way if reporting?

scottishmummy · 23/06/2013 00:06

yes,report to ceo

scottishmummy · 23/06/2013 00:13

ceop won't investigate alleged crime,but might be useful start
naming the adolescent is a breach,she's vulnerable it's not on
does fb have a report facility?

5madthings · 23/06/2013 00:31

Yes fb has a report faciloty but its for hate speech etc. If enough of us report it they may take note and take it down?

LittlePeaPod · 23/06/2013 05:03

That page is a bit like those women that write to death roll inmates... Strange.. Looking at it, it looks to be full of young people... All the reporting facilities are not appropriate with regards naming the girl...

It also looks like all 176 members are going to write to the national press condemning the handling of the case and someone suggested they all 176 of them get together and have a protest.. I can't even am it seriously.

The best thing for that group (outside reporting the breach with regards the girl)is for people to go on and say why they agree with the sentence...

sashh · 23/06/2013 06:03

I very much believe he groomed her, and he was in the wrong, but I dont think that makes it rape

Which is probably why he has been prosecuted for having sex with a child and not rape.

And this thread is just about to get worse, sorry it's a link to The Sun - her father would be happy to walk her down the aisle to marry Forrest. He thinks Forrest has done nothing wrong.

She wrote a letter to Forrest's family appologising for 'any upset'.

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4980242/Abducted-schoolgirl-I-want-to-wed-jailed-teacher.html

sashh · 23/06/2013 06:06

Oh and as for reporting her being named on facebook, she was named on twitter - this is the response I got.

Thanks for the information, however the minor involved in the Jeremy Forrest case was named by the media last year, as part of the appeal to locate her when she and Forrest travelled to France, therefore her details are already in the public domain, albeit that they were withheld when reporting on his recent trial.

Regards

North Wales Police

5madthings · 23/06/2013 09:01

Oh dear.
'he was foolish.. But he's a bloke' and she needs to accept some if the blame... From her own dad....

I dont even know where to begin.

sashh · 23/06/2013 09:12

5mad

It's so sad isn't it?