Jeremy Forrest verdict - aibu to be confused?

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Yep, I don't think even his own parents could deny he's a massive, hideous scumbag with no impulse control - but how can he have been found guilty of abduction when the girl he had an affair with said it was her idea to go to France and she went willingly?

Can somebody legal shed some light?

How iluminating that some people see this thread as somewhere to have "fun"

Sorry to say it and you can all shout but eh the laws says it is a free country and that is my view.
Until it's your own dds, eh!

Not happy no of course not. And we have a close relationship so they would talk to me and I would say it was inappropriate.

I do think some people believe their children have some magical force field making them immune to predatory types. And make no mistake, this man was a predator - he just doesn't fulfil the stereotypical view of a predator. In fact, that's probably why he was so successful in his deception. Because he seemed like such a nice bloke.

But you forget flip, he can't be held responsible for his perversions as he's just a poor foolish man who was led astray!

My parents brought me up to know my own mind and I have always had a great relationship with them.
When I was 15 I thought I knew everything there was to know. I was an arrogant little madam tbh. Telling them I was staying at friends and going night clubbing most weekends. Never having sex but getting damn close with older and totally inappropriate men. Anyway I met a bloke I really liked. We went out a couple of times and I told him my real age. It didn't bother him at all and he asked to see me again. I ended it when I found out he was married. Not because he was 34 iirc but because he had a wife. 27 years on I have never told my parents about this man and I never will. We never had sex thank god, I didn't feel ready for that for a few more years but it was a close run thing. My relationship with my parents had no bearing on me being with this man, they didn't figure in my thoughts at all because as far as I was concerned I knew my own mind. I was practically an adult, or at least thats how I felt when in reality I was just a schoolgirl doing things I was in no way ready for.
No 14 year old girl knows themselves that well. Nor can they be held responsible for the actions of a grown man in a position of authority whose ego is obviously so over inflated that he goes all out to get and keep a vulnerable young girl. In 10 years time will she be relieved that he went to prison or will she be desperately trying to escape an older abusive man who stole her teenage years?
Am getting really fucking angry reading some of the flippant comments on here, she is a kid abused by an adult. There is no other way to describe the situation.

I know Bobyan, what is the world coming to when a grown man is being held responsible for his own actions?

That will be because of the bloody anti-abuse feminists, they get everywhere. The Bitches.

I think one of the really disturbing things about this is that he is still manipulating her. She is (erroneously) feeling responsible for him going to jail, as she believes that he loves her. She has already perjured herself in court for him, and is likely planning on waiting for him - imagining their fairy-tale reunion when he is released.

Her parents or whoever her legal guardian is now need to stop him contacting her from his prison cell- an injunction or something. She is victim of a crime, even though she doesn't see herself as such, and needs protection from future contact from her abuser.

Bobyan

Absolutely running. It's pretty clear from his actions that he has no remorse..which is also worrying. It's been said upthread but if he really did care for her, if he really loved her he would leave her alone.

MrsDV yes, he said "I love you" and she said "I'm sorry".
It seems like hisnfamily are blaming the school for not acting on early warnings. I was under the impression that the school followed thenguidlines?

His family are looking to blame anyone except him - the school, his wife...

The 'I'm sorry' thing is a concern because she clearly feels she didn't do enough to 'save' him from jail - which means she will feel beholden to him, and possibly not able to break free from this. Obviously, nothing she said on the witness stand could have saved him from prison, as he was a teacher in authority over her, and she was his 15yr old pupil - kind of case closed there! That 'she was willing' makes no difference whatsoever.

Did anyone see my post further up about my maths teacher?

Years before he got caught having sex with pupils I had felt like I could trust him, like he was a special teacher. I was very vulnerable.

How many more were there like me who he made feel this way before he made the move?

Yes I saw your post DeepFried. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if she wasn't the first one. No doubt there were others before her, she was just the first one who responded.

I saw your post DeepFried you have highlighted that teachers have special access to kids, access that we don't grant to other people. We encourage our kids to trust teachers and policemen, and be wary of strangers. No one wants to live in a world where are kids aren't safe.

This teacher didn't stick to the rules he deserves the 5.5 years he got.

My teacher got less than that - and he had sex with more than one! And from local rumors had contacted others over the years. The children in question in my case were 16/17 - and teacher still got jailed which is brilliant. Reinforces the fact it is not just the age issue but the being in a position of authority.

The teacher in my case was over overweight and not classically attractive in any way. Yet he managed to make me feel a certain way and likely numerous others as well as those he had sex with.

It really does disturb me.

It is disturbing DeepFried. Thank you for sharing your story on here - have some . I sincerely hope people take in what you are saying. It's not a love story, it's a crime.

The girls involved in the sex gang cases in Rochdale, Rotherham and Oxford got involved with their older "boyfriends" willingly. Rape and violence came later - at first it was just a typical child/adult love story. He showered her with gifts and attention, she was vulnerable and fell in love.

This is exactly the same thinking that made police and social workers reluctant to intervene - those girls were 13 or 14, they were old enough to make their own choices, they loved their adult boyfriends and willingly had sex with them.

If it was a female teacher with a male pupil it would not be seen as love. This is about the view of women and girls in this country. Girls throw themselves at men and only have themselves to blame. I agree with this. Utterly depressing.

I think soverylucky is saying that he is to blame, the end bit of her quote has been missed off...

She was a child and he was an adult in a position of authority. He had no right to take her abroad without permission of her family, if he was genuinely concerned for her (bollix excuse) he would have gotten her outside help but of course he could then have been found out for having groomed her for sex.

I thought this thread couldn't get worse...I was wrong.

I can't believe the things I have read.