Jeremy Forrest verdict - aibu to be confused?

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Yep, I don't think even his own parents could deny he's a massive, hideous scumbag with no impulse control - but how can he have been found guilty of abduction when the girl he had an affair with said it was her idea to go to France and she went willingly?

Can somebody legal shed some light?

I was confused about the abduction thing too I guess it is the term. If I was to think a child abduction I would envisage a child dragged against their will
And not trying to provoke at all and I have a 15 year old DD and I know he was in a position of authority and a married man etc but she went quite willingly if they had waited until her Bday noone would have batted an eyelid. Two of my friends have a 20 year age gap and works perfectly well

five charges of sexual activity with a child.

Schoolchildren are still protected in law until they leave school. It is unlawful for a teacher to have sex with them even if they are 16.

Also. Am laughing at accusations of personal attacks on AVR2..who was calling those who disagreed with her all sorts

They would have to have waited 3 years until her 18th birthday fir the relationship to be legal imnotmymum as he was in a position of trust over her.

Oh my God, five further charges?

oh thank you it is a mess I agree. Did he have children?

I hope he gets a long sentence.

i would certainly not be turning a blind eye if my ds at 16 was in a relationship with his teacher no matter what age the teacher was or sex

What if she was 14, like in this case?

Did he have children?

Fortunately not. I wouldn't be surprised if he did within a couple of years though. What better way to ensure his very young partner stays with him after all of the drama of the enforced separation is over and it starts to feel less romantic and exciting?

I'd be very surprised if no one batted an eyelid at a 16 year old sleeping with a married 30 year old even if he wasn't her teacher! Surely anyone would recognise that is not a healthy relationship. What kind of adult seeks out a relationship with an adolescent?

And yes, even if she was 16 or 17, it is illegal for a teacher to have sex with her.

Can someone explain how he's now been charged with sex with an under 16, when he was on trial for abduction? I understood that there were various reasons as to why he wasn't charged with this in the first place, so how has it cropped up now?

Obviously i'm pleased they've charged him with it, no one can argue with that can they, unlike with the abduction thing.

It has been the law since The Sexual Offences Act 2003 was introduced. Very difficult to police once the student is over 16 though. My teacher was never prosecuted despite breaking the law.

More info below and via NSPCC:

The Sexual Offences Act 2003 was introduced to update the legislation relating to offences against children. It includes the offences of grooming, abuse of position of trust, trafficking, and covers offences committed by UK citizens whilst abroad.

Goodness, he could be in for a long sentence. Up to 14 years

I think that he couldn't be charged before because he was extradited for specific offences. The rules say that you can't add offences. I presume that he had the option to have those other offences taken into consideration when being sentenced, rather than being prosecuted for them separately.

so he will go on the sex offenders register now?

Hopefully lougle he will get the maximum because of the clause in the law except where it is inherent in an offence, any breach of trust arising from a family relationship between the child and the offender, or from the offender's professional or other responsibility for the child's welfare, will make an offence more serious. which obviously applies in this case.

Ah ok lougle I think I see where it's come from now, thanks.

I'm not sure. This link to the CPS site says that they can't take offences into consideration "If the offence to be taken into consideration is likely to attract a greater sentence than the offence for which he is to be sentenced."

The original offence carried max 7 years in jail. Sexual activity with a child carries max 14 years. I wonder if the judge feels he wouldn't have given more than 7 years anyway, so can take it into consideration?

He won't get anything like as long as that because there will be supposedly mitigating factors like lack of force, previous good character and so on. They might even take public opinion into account and there are a hell of a lot of people out there who really don't think he's done anything much wrong.

A slap on the wrist and 2-3 years is my prediction. Expect that's what his lawyers have told him too.

No wonder he looked so happy in the photos yesterday. He's probably a hero in jail. Very, very many men see adolescent girls as fair game. He wouldn't be regarded as a 'real' sex offender.

It would be a complete waste of public money to keep him in prison for 7 years.

Five and a half years. Fantastic.