to think that mark Bridger deserves to have his "parts" removed?

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while he's awake hopefully?

What I am trying to say, I think, is the more severe the punishment the higher the threshold is for reasonable doubt and the more likely the guilty are to get off with it.

Btw I have NO doubt at all that he did it. But then no one is going to die as a result of my opinion.

Why do we punish and want to remove offenders like Bridger and the rest? Is it a primal reaction - get something dangerous away from ourselves?
Is it to deter others?
What's the main point and benefit to wider society?

Genuine qs, btw.

I's a true story about an American man convicted of murder and the efforts made when it became apparent that the conviction was unsafe.
If you google the Innocence Project they are the people that got involved. It's a pretty tragic story.
I didn't even know JG wrote non fiction stuff, it's a good read but not a happy story.

Just exactly what tanith said.

I hope the bastards who killed that young soldier get whole life tariffs as well.

None of them will escape injury in jail and I think a whole life spent living in fear behind bars with no prospect of release is a far harsher punishment than the death penalty.

Some of the posters have actually admitted that they think those things because its making them feel better to think it

Yep, they are definitely getting something out of it.

thanks Flob i will have a look for that

It doesn't matter what happens to him though, does it? It won't bring that poor little girl back!

Yanbu, in the slightest.

I believe that this is a fallen and imperfect world and God has given us free will. As humans are ultimately selfish, this world is an unjust place, and too often it's the most innocent people that suffer. However, God is not the author of this injustice; people are

And who is the author of people (according to your beliefs)? God is. There was no need for him to create conscious life. There was no need for any suffering. No one would have lost out on anything if nothing was ever created. So no, actually, he's not off the hook.

Sort of relevant - can I ask, he's been given a term that he will never be released (is that right?)
How come he was given that when say Ian Huntley was given 40 years minimum and Stuart Hazell 38 years? When they are pretty similar crimes

Huntley wasth elast to be given a "tariff sentance" which was then set by Lord Chief justice, at the permission of parliment. That was deamed as illegal.

It is now the responsibilty of the trial judge to set the term, this, can be then appealed against, as set out under EU rules.

life sentence information

Although there is minimum sentencing still, the judge can alow for circumstances to hand out full life semntences.

Bridger had child murder/violence type porn on his laptop and it was thought that he copied Huntley. His profile is one of a very dangerous preditor that isn't open to reabilitation.

Thank you, am just reading link now

It's surprising he flew under the radar for so long.

I think he sounds much more dangerous to the public than the other child murderers mentioned. The fact he look april's pictures up on fb and saved them prior to the abduction, the premeditation to the crime etc and his obsession with porn and murder. The list goes on, he should never, ever be released, not only for the murder of april, and the upset he has caused but also due to the danger he would pose to children of society as a whole. Fwiw imo all child killers should recieve a life tariff

Justin, There are currently only about 50 prisoners in the UK with a whole life tariff who will never be released. This includes Mark Bridger. So galling as it is to have to pay for them to stay in jail it is probably much cheaper than attempting to introduce the death penalty in this really very small number of cases.

I can think of many other advantages as well. No one can be killed by mistake. If new evidence comes to light someone can be released from jail. Jurors don't let people off because they don't want to be responsible for someone's death. No one has to become an executioner with all the trauma that might involve. We also avoid descending to the same level as those we wish to punish.

I agree that death is too easy a punishment. I think most people would rather a painless death than life behind bars.

i think when we become a nation that justifies murder of 'certain people' we have then made murder justifiable. if that makes any sense at all

what i mean is if the state tells us that murder of X,Y and Z is ok and will be carried out on our behalf then there is a message being sent out that 'we' have a right to have X,Y and Z types removed from this life and there will be people who will use that to justify the illegal murder of others they consider 'type'. for example- someone believes their neigbour to be a paedophile. they 'know' it, perhaps for sure but there has been no arrest or conviction but they decide that children need to be protected and that the Govt supports and advocates the murder of such people so they take it upon themselves to save the state the time and money involved in a prosecution that might never result in a conviction and do it themselves because it has previously been justified by law.

I sadly don't feel that a life behind bars is an adequate punishment. he will be allowed to mix with similar offenders, and will make friends and be able to discuss his crime with them. sex offender treatment programmes are often criticised as giving offenders the opportunity to 'get off' on the retelling of others' crimes.

He will have his own tv, gym time and the opportunity to undertake further education (many lifers chose to complete OU courses. Free.) He will soon 'settle' into the prison way of life and find a sense of belonging in there. He will have an element of kudos and respect in prison. And, most disturbing of all, he will always have his memories of the crime to 'enjoy'.

I don't believe in the death penalty, as it demeans society, and is like smacking a child as punishment for them hitting someone - double standards. however, I don't think there is another way of punishing child-murderers. they are in a category of their own, in my opinion.

Erm no catlike, we are so angry at what he did to that littl girl. I bet you would feel the same if te same If in Aprils parents position

Torture the bastard slowly each day. Jail is to good for him.

you'd be happy to carry out the torture toffeelolly?