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to think that mark Bridger deserves to have his "parts" removed?

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whatever2 · 30/05/2013 22:00

while he's awake hopefully?
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LadyBeagleEyes · 31/05/2013 09:32

And to add to my above post, if I had the hypothetical choice of immediate death by say lethal injection, or the rest of my life in prison, I would also go for the former.

minouminou · 31/05/2013 09:34

Is that out of revulsion at what you'd done, Lady, or because the prospect if life behind bars is awful?
Do you think you'd be able to make some kind of life for yourself in jail, or would you not see the point?

LadyBeagleEyes · 31/05/2013 09:39

A life behind bars would be unbearable to me.
I'd rather be dead.

janey68 · 31/05/2013 09:41

Hasn't Huntley tried to commit suicide at least twice? I've no doubt for many murderers, death is the preferable option

scottishmummy · 31/05/2013 09:54

1st let me express my revulsion at the depravity he's responsible for
but,that visceral reaction in no way justifies physical torture upon perpetrator
a liberal,mature response is that he be locked up,life tariff.this isn't about revenge it's about punishment

Tanith · 31/05/2013 10:17

He is in prison for the rest of his life. He will never get out.

While in prison, he will know that he is universally hated by every other prisoner and guard. He will live in daily terror that the precautions put in place for his own personal safety will fail. He will never be sure that his food is uncontaminated - either by someone spitting in it, or ground glass, or urine...
He faces years of constant questioning and psychological therapy, especially while he persists in claiming he doesn't know what happened. He will be made to remember what happened until he discloses what he knows.

It'll take a whole lot longer than merely cutting his bits off or hanging him. He is starting his first day of living hell today.

SooticaTheWitchesCat · 31/05/2013 10:23

YANBU Whatever2. Life imprisonment and castration I say. People like that deserve to suffer!

scottishmummy · 31/05/2013 10:25

these threads bring out the rabid hang em,flog em types.too het up to think straight

SelfRighteousPrissyPants · 31/05/2013 10:28

I'm with Tanith, life imprisonment is a much more effective punishment and we don't have to have double standard morals- win win.

LadyBeagleEyes · 31/05/2013 10:29

Exactly Tanith.
He'll never have proper human contact again, unless he has visitors, and even then it'll be very limited. I think he'll eventually be on suicide watch, his sentence is, IMO, absolutely suitable.
To me he has got the worst possible punishment.
I'm sure he'll have a flat screen telly though Wink.

Tanith · 31/05/2013 10:33

I think he's automatically on suicide watch now, just in case.

Forgot about that one!

24 hour constant surveillance; bright lights 24x7 so they can see exactly what he's doing...

Catlike · 31/05/2013 10:51

I can't even bear to think about the man, let alone ghoulishly dwell on whether his genitals should be cut off personally.

Same here. I really don't want to think about his "parts". Thank god there is no risk of him ever being released.

Some of the more bloodthirsty posts and the indignant ones about being "entitled" to express these gruesome desires give the impression that the writer is actually enjoying themselves in a morbid kind of way. Utterly gross.

janey68 · 31/05/2013 10:55

You're right catlike. Some of the posters have actually admitted that they think those things because its making them feel better to think it (not because they genuinely believe in it ideologically.) I can't get my head round that either... Surely any sane person wouldn't want to give the sick murdered head space, never mind fantasize about doing things to his body

janey68 · 31/05/2013 10:56

murderer

Flobbadobs · 31/05/2013 10:58

He's going to have to spend the rest of his life in prison looking over his shoulder and never feeling safe. I would imagine there will be prisoners there who would gladly give him their own 'justice' given half a chance.
Living a long life is a worse punishment than anything the hang 'em flog 'em brigade can come up with imo.

Boomba · 31/05/2013 11:14

if living in prison for the rest of his life, never free, never without fear is far far worse than the death penalty...how is it then morally superior?

yous are all advocating a lifetime of torture, from a moral high ground Confused

LadyMaiBlossom · 31/05/2013 11:17

Im glad the judge give him the highest sentance of life in prison but I dont feel its enough. As I have my own children and the fact it could have been anyones child he took, hits at the heart of every parent.

I do not support the death sentance in any way, it has no place in a civiliced sociaty but I still want MB to hurt and feel the fear April did Sad

C999875 · 31/05/2013 11:18

Yes he should slowly and painfully. and he should be forced to say where he has buried poor little April. Too much emphasis seems to be on the perpertrator rather than the innocent victim.
I would also like to see the death penalty brought back.

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minouminou · 31/05/2013 11:18

Because he needs to be punished, still.
Years ago I read a (slightly rubbish) novel set in a future when murderers were kept in medical comas for ever. Think Minority Report, but after the crime (and not as good a read).

What do you think of this? Instead of a lifetime of fear, just....nothing (ish).

Chivetalking · 31/05/2013 11:23

His life in prison will be a living hell. I hope he lives a very long time and suffers every single minute of it. Likewise Stuart Hazell.

I'd like to think he might reveal what he did with April's body but as it's his last piece of power I don't think there's much hope at least in the short term. I think he's modelling his sick self on the equally revolting Ian Brady there.

Boomba · 31/05/2013 11:25

minou Im pretty sre that I dont support the death penalty. Im pretty comfortable with a lifetime prison sentence. But I dont think its morally superior to thinking the death penalty is suitable

Boomba · 31/05/2013 11:27

my main objection to the death penalty, is actually wrongful convictions

Flobbadobs · 31/05/2013 11:29

Boomba have you read An Innocent Man by John Grisham? Scary stuff..

Januarymadness · 31/05/2013 11:30

All morality aside, a significant problem with the death penalty is that a jury is less likely to convict if this was the likely outcome. I suspect with Bridger, the fact that he was convicted despite the lack of a body, the likelyhood of the death penaly would never have been on the table through fear of him getting off completely.

I was involved with a gbh trial. The defendants were found not guilty, not because they hadnt carried out the act but because it was felt that what had occured did not amount to such a serious offence. Had the charge and punishment been lesser I am in no doubt the verdict would have been different.

Boomba · 31/05/2013 11:31

no, i havent flob
can you summarise (without giving away the ending)?

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