to think that mark Bridger deserves to have his "parts" removed?

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while he's awake hopefully?

umm I am not sure that he has been dealt with properly.

How much is keeping this man safe, alive and well going to cost us?

At a time when cut backs are driving people to poverty and food banks and yet we are all putting a little bit of money to keep the likes of him and Stuart Hazel alive and safe.

I fully think that for some crimes prison should be about rehabilitation but can these childs killers be redeemed and rehabilitated? Do we want them to be?

When I was younger I argued vehemently against the death penalty.

Now I have changed my mind. There is no doubt in these cases that these men killed and abused.

Society should be able to remove them permanently.

Rambling....they'd most likely end up on Death Row for decades, with appeal after appeal, still costing us a fortune.
I don't think executing people to save money is a route we should think about.

Rambling would you have death penalty with no right to appeal? Because otherwise we are still paying to keep him locked up while his lawyers stall for time and appeal again and again on all sorts of basis like the us system where they have unlimited right to appeal

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with respect minou you post strings of empty words...

what do you mean, she outshone him??! He tortured and murdered children, and tape-recorded them as he did it! Of course she 'outshone' him...

'she didnt resort to threats and anger' what???! threaten who?? you dont think she was angry??

She didn't lower herself to anywhere near his level. Of course she was angry, she must have been. Outshone.....wrong angle maybe. I should have said that her composure and dignity outshone his acts and her dreadful loss.

All I'll say is I hope he gets whatever is coming to him inside. Disgusting excuse for a human being .

I do not know the ins and outs of the law.

But Forensic evidence is so amazing now, there is less room for mistake.

This man has been sentenced to life.

I do not see why he could not un equivocally be also sentenced to death without appeal.

I don't want to pay taxes to go to this man thanks. I would rather pay for the injection to get rid of him.

Rather odd and jarring posts there Minou re: Winnie.

I see what you mean but we are not talking about a burglar breaking into your house and smashing your wedding present vase from Aunty Flora.

I think she wrote dear mr brady to try and implore and plea to a possible decent cell in his body. Being rude to him would not have got her anywhere.

Without wishing to sound like a Daily Mail columnist moaning about prisoners having Sky tv and whatnot, I would certainly support standards of living for prisoners like Bridger to be held at a basic level. Before anyone asks, no I'm not very well informed about what prisoners do and don't get access to inside. I don't imagine they do get widescreen tvs and luxury items at all. But it does need to be looked at.

I think her managing to keep her dignity would probably have bothered him more than the hatred and abuse that he (rightfully) received.
He was still trying to hurt her and play with her emotions, cause her even more pain than he already had, had she reacted to that, he would have 'beaten' her.
Obviously he is a reprehensible creature and he caused her unimaginable pain and suffering but taking his life wouldn't have ended that and probably wouldn't have begun to repair it.
Although I have no way of knowing that for sure, maybe it would have.
I suppose unless you have actually been in the situation you have no idea how you would feel.

I don't think it's odd to think that way of her at all. She picked herself up and got on with life, all the while looking for her son, never giving up.

I don't think he should be tortured I do however think in cases like this the lethal injection should be given. We live very close to the town and it is horrific and sad, we have been led to believe that he dumped Aprils body after trying to burn it. I think that he also confessed to a padre. It's horrid the way this has not only changed Aprils family but also the town.

As an aside I do not think crimes against children are punished severely enough, nor those against anyone vulnerable.

Google do not do enough about people accessing child images etc etc.

I guess when the crimes are committed with the help of a fast-moving tech sector, the law always lags behind a bit.

The technology issue needs some serious investment. There should be a move to recruit the best computer brains out there and get them working on how people putting this material online and those accessing it can be traced. I know then you risk ending up in a Minority Report situation where you are predicting who will commit crimes but...

I think that no one has the right to take a life. As a society we cannot keep moving towards equal treatment under the law if the state has that right on our behalf, because it means that someone can be judged to have forfeited their right to life.

Where is the line drawn? A drunk driver kills a child, is their life forfeit? A woman kills her infant in puerperal psychosis, is her life forfeit? If not, where does the line of mental illness lie? A teenager stabs another to death, should another child be put to death? A line cannot be drawn and so there is no line.

When someone takes a life, it does not bestow the right to take life upon us. The death penalty was and would be enacted unequally, and was not justice but arbitrary state sanctioned murder.

she was indeed a dignified woman, but i think that kind of narrative, just makes it more palatable for the rest of society.

she had no choice but to get on with her life. he murdered her son. he had information that she wanted. she knew that. he knew that

As a parent of course I want him to suffer but as a citizen I don't want to be a part of a state that operates vengefully. His sentence and his experiences in prison will have to be enough for us. Tbh I suspect he is afraid tonight and I rather think he will be living in fear for maybe another 40 years. That will do. There are worse things than being dead.

I think the death penalty is too good for him. No one knows what comes next so we may have him rid him from our lives but he could go on to something better! No, keep him here where we can see him pay for what he has done.

It's already done for 'terrorism' and political reasons snazzy so one wonders why the same couldn't be dome for crimes against children.

Agree with northernlurker.
If I am honest, I expect tonight he wishes he were dead, as its probably a preferable thought to the existence stretching ahead

Actually, I think you're right there boomba

Palatable how? None of us would hope to be in a position where we'd have to look to her as an example. There's no way the tale can be made palatable or pleasant.

I've just always had a lot of respect for her, and pragmatism aside (he had info etc) she held it together for decades. I couldn't.