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To be shocked and frustrated with the Islamophobia that's bursting out all over Facebook today?

672 replies

Seekingsense · 22/05/2013 21:38

Following the awful tragedy in Woolwich today.

I have seen everything from "We want our England back" to "Kick out all the foreigners" to "Islamic infiltration of the UK" etc. I have paraphrased as some of the stuff is so horrible I do not want to repeat it.

This is from normal everyday people and lots of them. Is this really what people think?

I, like most people am horrified by what has happened to this young soldier in Woolwich, but why is everyone so quick to blame an entire religion for it and to jump on the 'kick out all immigrants' bandwagon.

What can we do about it? Ignore, delete, post, report?

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FunnysInLaJardin · 23/05/2013 10:39

Dawndonna some excellent posts there. get you are behaving like an arse

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 23/05/2013 10:42

What some of these racists don't seem to realise is that they are on the same continuum as the islamic extremists. Anyone who thinks they have the right to attack individual or a whole group because they think differenly, worship differently, look or dress differently is a bigot.

AngsanaTree · 23/05/2013 10:52

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MolotovCocktail · 23/05/2013 10:54

I've haven't read all posts. I've read up to p3 and just now, p9.

I agree that those who incite racism are bringing themselves onto the same field as extremists. This dreadful murder seems like an excuse to me, to display appalling attitudes.

I thankfully haven't needed to delete any friends of mine. I have in the past; we didn't really know eachother and I'm proud to say that the people who I associate with are thinking and compassionate people.

I have, however, needed to 'unlike' a page that I had 'liked'. I don't know if I'm allowed to directly say what it was, but initially it was a pseudo-biographical page that was a bit of fun set in the city where I grew up.

It has now taken an ignorant, racist, bigoted political stance, includig making inflammatory comments and sharing other disgusting posts from other sites. Some of the comments made by people who follow the page are ... Well, they're awful.

It's frustrating that all I can do is 'unlike'. Facebook gives everyone a stage - even if they really ought not to have one.

threesypeesy · 23/05/2013 10:56

Well said angsanaTree

ParsingFancy · 23/05/2013 10:56

AngsanaTree, maybe you should look at some of the other threads where the same people are indeed "directing their thoughts to his poor family".

This thread - clue in title - is about reactions of hatred on Facebook.

And sadly there have been attacks on two mosques, I think no one injured thank goodness, plus EDL attacks on the police last night.

FunnysInLaJardin · 23/05/2013 10:57

Ang It's not about being PC, it's about a hideous violent act perpetrated in the name of religion sparking a whole host of other hideous violent acts and entrenching those bigots views.

BTW you weren't told to leave the UK, just MN!

Buzzardbird · 23/05/2013 10:58

The racist posts that I have reported to fb have been answered as fb don't think they are hate speech. FB is obviously happy with racism and bigotry.

MolotovCocktail · 23/05/2013 10:58

I heard about the attacks on mosques (one was in Kent, right), so reprisal are happening already. Don't people understand that this is the extreme division that terrorist organisations desire?

CrapsWithBears · 23/05/2013 10:59

I repeat that I am agog at the PC brigade on here.

And I repeat, if you don't like it FTFO.

No revenge attacks have happened.

That's patently not true, here. And that's just the beginning, there was an increase in hate crimes aimed at Muslims post 9/11 and 7/7. It's a serious issue.

You may want to direct your thoughts to his poor family instead.

I'll direct my thoughts at ALL the innocent people caught up in this mess.

It's only when you watch the UK from afar that you see the madness and the pickles that you have gotten yourself in with your misguided political correctness.

Yeah, how made the we don't tolerate bigotry and prejudice. Dearie me, what's the world coming to.

Buzzardbird · 23/05/2013 11:00

There actually have been several reprisals and it is only 11 o'clock here in PC land. Try getting your facts straight.

Kendodd · 23/05/2013 11:00

I have heard the English Defence League is planning some sort of march to demonstrate about this attack. EDL against Muslim extremism it think. I'll try to find a link.

I was thinking when I heard this on the radio this morning that if I were Muslim, I think I'd go and join their march. Hopefully completely outnumber them, but with the same message (although not as the EDL intended it to be read). I remember a few years ago there was some sort of 'not in my name' march about Islamic terrorism, and (normal) people not wanting to be tainted by it.

CrapsWithBears · 23/05/2013 11:00

*how 'mad'

EagleRiderDirk · 23/05/2013 11:03

Kendodd I love that idea!

CrapsWithBears · 23/05/2013 11:04

Kendodd It's a nice idea but I wouldn't go anywhere near a march of theirs, they have no issue with attacking women and children and most of them will be tanked up on drugs and drink.

CrapsWithBears · 23/05/2013 11:05

Oh, here's that they attacked women and babies, one of the attackers was actually a serving soldier AFAIR.

LastTangoInDevonshire · 23/05/2013 11:06

crapswithbears - now that really IS a tolerant non-bigoted post, isn't it? Do you get the irony?

CrapsWithBears · 23/05/2013 11:08

Which post? I've made plenty. If you're talking about my reply to Kendodd though, I stand by it. EDL are mostly extremists and they are well known for their violence.

fromparistoberlin · 23/05/2013 11:09

ANGSANGA "I repeat that I am agog at the PC brigade on here. A poor young soldier has been brutally executed, possibly decapitated and your main concern is your facebook friends offending others.

I hear you.

This morning coming into work I read the article , and I felt like crying on the tube. its awful awful awful angsanga. Of course I care about him

and then I went "whoaaaaa" when I read a a couple of racist comments on FB. Angsanga racism is starting to really rile me. some of the SHIT i hear in my community around local schools/ethnicity etc. some complete stranger even came up to me and moaned about local school, like as I am white and look MC he can spout this shit at me?

as a mother of a child that goes to a VERY mixed school I am concerned that the minute something like this happens it gives people free reign to spout some very islamaphobic comments.

But I shed tears for that poor soldier, and of course I care for him

Dawndonna · 23/05/2013 11:12

no revenge attacks/

AngsanaTree · 23/05/2013 11:12

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MolotovCocktail · 23/05/2013 11:14

I know that FB wasn't around after 9/11 so it isn't entirely applicable to this thread but, I was at college in 2001 and remember 2 girls (wearing hijabs) being verbally abused using racist language the day after.

I mean, Shock Confused I saw it happen and the girls were saying that they thought it was awful too; that they'd nothing to do with it.

The perpetrator was just another kid at college - but one who evidently was (and probably still is) racist. I remember us telling this lad to stop, that he was being a twat but it's very frightening to think that - to some people - two grotesque individuals represent an entire group of people.

And who will then act upon their hate (which is precisely what those two individuals did yesterday).

Kendodd · 23/05/2013 11:16

What is going on with all these angry young men in the world?

Could part of the problem be that there just aren't enough women? In that young men form a disproportionately large group in the world population.

OwlLady · 23/05/2013 11:18

I agree with thebody Wed 22-May-13 21:54:50

we do all need to stand together

CrapsWithBears · 23/05/2013 11:18

Well I would say that you are highly tolerant of bigotry and prejudice and of people who are extremely violent towards British people.

And you'd be fucking wrong, but don't let that stop you.

If one of these alleged murderers had been picked up last week when he was publicly inciting racial hatred in the high street outside a shop this young man would still be alive.

And this has what to do with political correctness and anything I have said? Oh, that's right, nothing.

'Oh and then we have Abu Qatada.'

Again, this has nothing to do with political correctness and is not relevant to me because I want him to be deported.

Your classy!

My classy what?