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To be shocked and frustrated with the Islamophobia that's bursting out all over Facebook today?

672 replies

Seekingsense · 22/05/2013 21:38

Following the awful tragedy in Woolwich today.

I have seen everything from "We want our England back" to "Kick out all the foreigners" to "Islamic infiltration of the UK" etc. I have paraphrased as some of the stuff is so horrible I do not want to repeat it.

This is from normal everyday people and lots of them. Is this really what people think?

I, like most people am horrified by what has happened to this young soldier in Woolwich, but why is everyone so quick to blame an entire religion for it and to jump on the 'kick out all immigrants' bandwagon.

What can we do about it? Ignore, delete, post, report?

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FunnysInLaJardin · 23/05/2013 11:19

it's you're

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 23/05/2013 11:19

Angsana
Who is tolerant of Abu Qatada?

The reason he hasn't been deported is because the English Judiciary rightly believe that you can't pick and choose whose human rights you protect. You start eroding human rights because of one noxious individual and then they get chipped away for all of us.

The reason Abu Qatada is still here is because we won't allow our dislike of him to undermine the fundemental importance of our justice system i.e. we won't change what it means to be British to deal with him.

Dawndonna · 23/05/2013 11:20

Anyone who swears is classy Angsana that's the way it is.

Now, in what way is Craps biggoted? Because she put up a link to a bigotted organisation. Because she's spent the whole thread speaking out against it, or are you trying to use some sort of logical fallacy, the strawman fallacy for example?

LtEveDallas · 23/05/2013 11:20

As most of my FB friends are serving or ex soldiers I was bracing myself to have to make numerous deletions. Not because soldiers are inherently racist - they aren't, but because I was expecting the knee-jerk reactions to 'one of their own' being killed.

I am VERY happy to report that almost to a man the posts I have seen have been roundly condemming the incident, professing support and sympathy to the fallen soldier and his family and more importantly blaming the KILLERS, not their religion or race.

Lots of condemnation of the EDL dickheads as well.

I have had to make a few deletions - but they were old school 'friends' and no great loss.

I was worried about backlash, I still am, but I'm very glad to see that it seems I have chosen my friends wisely. What happened yesterday was horrific, but that would be no excuse to let the racists, bigots and wankers win.

MolotovCocktail · 23/05/2013 11:20

Definitely agree that we need to stand together as a nation.

CrapsWithBears · 23/05/2013 11:22

This is a good satirical article about this issue, by the way, for anyone interested.

'The sickening terrorism attack on a soldier in Woolwich has really brought out the caring, tolerant and inclusive sides of society, according to reports this morning.

With numerous calls to ?send em back?, ?bomb the hell out of wherever they come from? or ?let the people on the street deal with them?, British society is celebrating one of its finest hours.'

RhinestoneCowboy · 23/05/2013 11:23

That poor, young soldier. My thoughts are with him and the tragedy that has befallen his family.

ParsingFancy · 23/05/2013 11:24

Not so tolerant we don't arrest and jail people against whom there is evidence of plotting violent attacks (24 this year, according to MI5 website), Angsa

But the whole point of having a rule of law is that you can't lock people up until they have committed a crime. (Although that's getting bent where there are deportation issues as with Qatada, or indeed legal immigrants).

amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 11:27

bit off topic, but has it been confirmed that the victim was a cadet or soldier or neither?

doesn't matter too much, just wondering.

ParsingFancy · 23/05/2013 11:30

Just this moment been confirmed as serving soldier, amazingmum. Name to be released shortly.Sad

My thoughts are with his family, friends and colleagues.

PatPig · 23/05/2013 11:45

I think this thread is a little unreasonable.

People in this country are tolerant by world standards. I have been to many countries, and trust me that Britain is extremely tolerant.

That said, people are understandably shocked and disgusted at this event, a side-effect of immigration, which the majority of people in this country when polled, want restricted, and offensive comments on Facebook is definitely progress when compared to reactions to similar events in world history.

gordyslovesheep · 23/05/2013 11:50

they where British

amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 12:03

thanks parsing I can't watch news right now

Pigsmummy · 23/05/2013 12:03

The Facebook that you are seeing is yours, your wall, your "friends". Take action if you don't like what you see. Unfriend, or hide their feed and report anything bad.

I have no offensive comments on my wall, there are lots of comments of support and "likes" for the armed forces. My friend (from school) who is in the army and lives in barracks in London has loads of supportive comments from people (like me) whom were concerned for his safety and morale.

lottieandmia · 23/05/2013 12:09

It's all very well to say just unfriend but if it's someone related to you or someone who's been a family friend for 30 years it's not so easy!

lottieandmia · 23/05/2013 12:11

PatPig

Where is your evidence that what happened yesterday is 'a side effect of immigration?' I'm all ears...

Pigsmummy · 23/05/2013 12:13

Their feed then?

Pigsmummy · 23/05/2013 12:14

Sorry I meant, hide their feed and also report anything bad. The reporting is anonymous.

lottieandmia · 23/05/2013 12:15

Yes hiding their feed is the best idea I agree.

fromparistoberlin · 23/05/2013 12:15

I dont think its a side effect of immigration

I think they were mentally ill and got pysched up by a religious cause that gave them (in their heads) permission to brutally murder an innocent man

I dont think anyone who did what they did can have a clean mental bill of health TBH

Bakingnovice · 23/05/2013 12:28

Disgusting what's being said. I was walking home from school with a Muslim mum and a car stopped and the guy got out and started swearing at her. He spat at her. I'm so upset I'm shaking. She's a doctor. Kind giving funny. I could cry. We were both terrified.

Why do I feel like the uk is starting sometimes to feel like pre war Germany?

amazingmumof6 · 23/05/2013 12:29

from mentally ill? hmmm

Buzzardbird · 23/05/2013 12:33

Baking, that is so awful. These idiots have never read a history book.

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