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To be shocked and frustrated with the Islamophobia that's bursting out all over Facebook today?

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Seekingsense · 22/05/2013 21:38

Following the awful tragedy in Woolwich today.

I have seen everything from "We want our England back" to "Kick out all the foreigners" to "Islamic infiltration of the UK" etc. I have paraphrased as some of the stuff is so horrible I do not want to repeat it.

This is from normal everyday people and lots of them. Is this really what people think?

I, like most people am horrified by what has happened to this young soldier in Woolwich, but why is everyone so quick to blame an entire religion for it and to jump on the 'kick out all immigrants' bandwagon.

What can we do about it? Ignore, delete, post, report?

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AudrinaAdare · 22/05/2013 22:05

YANBU! You think you know someone...

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PatPig · 22/05/2013 22:07

"The Muslim community have already condemned the attack."

There is no 'Muslim community', any more than there is a 'white community'.

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LingDiLong · 22/05/2013 22:08

No YANBU. And I am calling people on this, if I even make one person see the error of their ways then I'll be happy.

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Seekingsense · 22/05/2013 22:09

May I ask what you are posting in response LingDiLong?

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AmandaPayneNeedsANap · 22/05/2013 22:10

None of my friends. But I am very selective on who I accept.

This is an awful, awful act of violence. Close to where I used to live. It makes me want to weep. Fucking nutters.

I am not watching the news on purpose.

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SignoraStronza · 22/05/2013 22:11

Just one. Young. Ex squaddie. I'm torn between calling him out on it (and thereby showing my other friends, many of whom are immigrants and/or Muslim what divot 'friends' I have) or just quietly deleting him. WWYD?

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LingDiLong · 22/05/2013 22:12

Well I am posting specifically in response to the picture of Winston Churchill quoting 'Islam is as dangerous in a man as a rabid dog'. Which also has the comment with it 'Kick the Bastards Out'. I've pointed out that White British People and Christians still murder and commit crime. And also that the picture they are sharing comes from an offshoot of the BNP. So, nothing contentious. I'm just about managing to refrain from saying 'For Fuck's Sake you morons, if you really believe that then you're a racist twat' which is what I really want to say...

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NotYoMomma · 22/05/2013 22:13

Oh so sorry Hmm the Muslim council of Britain have already condemned the attacks

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flippinada · 22/05/2013 22:14

Yes, I sympathise entirely.

Unfortunately, what makes the internet so good - everyone has a voice - is conversely one of the worst things about it. Some people should have their fingers sellotaped together before being allowed anywhere near a keyboard.

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xigris · 22/05/2013 22:14

YNBU. Sad

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DorisIsWaiting · 22/05/2013 22:16

YANBU I've just said the same to DH.

It's depressing.

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ShadeofViolet · 22/05/2013 22:18

YANBU :(

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flippinada · 22/05/2013 22:19

"There is no 'Muslim community', any more than there is a 'white community'."

I'm somewhat surprised this needs to be pointed out but "White" is not a religion. The comparison is meaningless.

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LastTangoInDevonshire · 22/05/2013 22:21

If the Muslim Council of Great Britain have condemned the attacks, why are they not more pro-active in seeking out the people in their mosques who radicalise others? Just asking.

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Altinkum · 22/05/2013 22:22

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LingDiLong · 22/05/2013 22:22

Just thought I'd report back that the 2 people who posted that picture have now taken it down....I'm glad I spoke out now

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IneedAyoniNickname · 22/05/2013 22:23

Only 1 person I know has posted anything racist. I'm not surprised tbh as the twat has form. I've deleted him.

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LulaPalooza · 22/05/2013 22:29

YANBU.

My friend's 24 year old daughter, who I have known since she was 15 months old, has just "liked" a FB status saying "People may see that kind of thing in there country everyday but thats not down to us. If they dont like how we live then they should fuck off back to there own country!"

I came on here to stop myself from sending her a strong message. I thought better of her. Her friend is obviously ignorant (with a limited understanding of grammar).

The thing that saddens me the most is that the young man shown in the ITV footage is quite clearly a South London bloke, probably born and bred here. I would put good money on him having been converted to radical "Islam" in prison. And yet the backlash against Islam continues, ignorance abounds... so fucking depressing.

NB I put Islam in inverted commas because whatever belief system drove that young man to do what he did, it was not Islam.

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flippinada · 22/05/2013 22:30

"If the Muslim Council of Great Britain have condemned the attacks, why are they not more pro-active in seeking out the people in their mosques who radicalise others?"

You may as well ask why the Archbishop of Canterbury isn't campaigning against Fred Phelps (head of the vile Westboro Baptist Church). Both men would describe themselves as Christians, but in reality their views are worlds apart.

Is it too much of a stretch to imagine that Islam, as a religion, contains similarly diverse views, some of which are hateful?

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LastTangoInDevonshire · 22/05/2013 22:37

flippinada - maybe because Westboro Baptist Church is in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and the Archbishop of Canterbury IS IN THE UK?????

The Muslim Council of GREAT BRITAIN - geddit??

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Dawndonna · 22/05/2013 22:37

I have got rid of one or two. Made it very clear exactly where I stand and have put a public message up saying that racist comments will be swiftly deleted.

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Sallyingforth · 22/05/2013 22:37

YYY flippinada

Extremism in any religion is dangerous and usually contrary to the core values of its majority believers.

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nannyof3 · 22/05/2013 22:40

How is a virtual candle wankey???

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amazingmumof6 · 22/05/2013 22:41

have you seen the news about that soldier being cut up with meat cleavers?

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CelticPixie · 22/05/2013 22:41

Yes I've unfriended two people this evening. There were not people I knew very well thankfully, but the usual crap. "If they don't like our way of life they can fuck off" and "Nuke all Muslims" etc.

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