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To be shocked and frustrated with the Islamophobia that's bursting out all over Facebook today?

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Seekingsense · 22/05/2013 21:38

Following the awful tragedy in Woolwich today.

I have seen everything from "We want our England back" to "Kick out all the foreigners" to "Islamic infiltration of the UK" etc. I have paraphrased as some of the stuff is so horrible I do not want to repeat it.

This is from normal everyday people and lots of them. Is this really what people think?

I, like most people am horrified by what has happened to this young soldier in Woolwich, but why is everyone so quick to blame an entire religion for it and to jump on the 'kick out all immigrants' bandwagon.

What can we do about it? Ignore, delete, post, report?

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Mimishimi · 22/05/2013 23:20

He may be fourth generation British but I really, really doubt 'his land' is in Palestine.

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NotYoMomma · 22/05/2013 23:21

He also kicked off about 'what happened to British empire. I despair

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IneedAyoniNickname · 22/05/2013 23:21

And the second friend with racist rants has begun :( including "why are we treating that.scum in OUR hospitals, let them rot"

Do we actually know what nationality/race they are? They could be British could they not? (not that that makes the crime less horrific)
And the BBC website says it hadn't been confirmed that the victim is a soldier?

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cherhorowitz · 22/05/2013 23:23

I've been on a deleting spree of friends that I never knew held these disgusting beliefs. Shouts that if we send them all back our problems are over. Saying that the town in which she lives with her forces husband has had 0 murders in 10 years because there are 0 Muslims.

I just can't.

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feetheart · 22/05/2013 23:26

Here, here thebody.

I just thank God there was no Facebook in the 70's and 80's when all the Irish were terrorists. All I had to make sure I kept my accent to myself.

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qualitytoffee · 22/05/2013 23:29

Me an All feet x Sad

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Mimishimi · 22/05/2013 23:31

What 'happened' to the British Empire is that the rest of us knew we were just the cannon fodder and didn't want to do it anymore. Of course those running the show had it cushy, the rest of us lived in terror and fear of our husbands/sons being forced away from us.

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TSSDNCOP · 22/05/2013 23:33

But these FB frothers are so pathetic and toothless, they're posting pictures of Churchill and yet unable to spell "patriotism".

Tomorrow they will have no broader perspective on this than to quote the tabs and then they'll go back to quoting Heat and Closer about Kim K's latest footwear.

I'd have at least a modicum f respect for their views if the extent of their expertise want the ability to press the "share" button.

Wankers.

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Buzzardbird · 22/05/2013 23:40

Does no-one 'report' these posts? They are illegal. I have just reported my own nephew. It saddens me that my dd is related to someone so ignorant.

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Buzzardbird · 22/05/2013 23:42

One poster I was arguing with posted "why should we pay for 'there' education?!!!".
You cannot argue with stupid.

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GrendelsMum · 22/05/2013 23:43

it taints the way you look at people, doesn't it?

:( for you and your nephew, Buzzardbird

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Chipstick10 · 22/05/2013 23:46

I'm angry with the ranting racist fuck from the Muslim public affairs committee. Why is he being given a platform on news chanels?

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PatPig · 22/05/2013 23:47

It's probably worth remembering the events of a 2011, when there was a week of rioting, 5 deaths and numerous injuries, in response to the shooting of a suspected drug dealer by the police.

In contrast, people posting offensive statements on Facebook doesn't really compare.

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qualitytoffee · 22/05/2013 23:51

Look, perhaps when they calm down, they'll see differently. Sad
Or maybe not, but i agree, this young mans death will be a kickstart to the BNP and their followers to start a hate run.
I hope that everyone are safe tonight, whatever religion xxxxx

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BegoniaBampot · 22/05/2013 23:56

Think you have got to look at the kind of people you have as 'friends'. I never have this kind of crap I read about on FB. Have about 60 friends (deliberately keep it low)but they don't post arsehole stuff.

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thebody · 23/05/2013 00:14

Er can we just for one moment.

STOP and remember there are psychopaths and nasty bastards from each and every country.

I can't bring religion into this as hate has no place in religion. That's just a smoke screen for getting away with terror.

This is the murder of another human being.

I fully understand the impact of the Internet as I saw my daughters coach crash plastered all over it before we knew she was alive or dead.

That's real life. Lets send mumsnet wishes to this poor family and for now forget social media.

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vivizone · 23/05/2013 00:18

My friend (who I will delete) just liked this post from her friend who's profile shows she works for Santander


that poor soldier, what a disgrace. get the muslims out of OUR country!


Vile. It kills me how people will have open FB and spout any old shit. Don't they care or are they too thick?

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pinkballetflats · 23/05/2013 00:28

I've just gone and had a look at a couple of reports and watched the footage given to ITV and I have two questions:

  1. How do people know the man who was speaking to the camera is Muslim?
  2. Why are only his hands and the meat cleaver bloody?

    From the aerial view of the scene there was a lot of the victim's blood on the ground, and yet this man has no splatter on him at all.

    I can't even face my Facebook feed...I have one particular friend who is verging on being a Nazi and I know what I will find there....
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Mimishimi · 23/05/2013 00:39

He claims to be Muslim? Also, they are wearing dark clothes so blood spatter wouldn't necessarily be obvious? Do you think there could be more to this?

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SarahAndFuck · 23/05/2013 00:46

Allinatizz - I've seen that Australian thing as well and Snopes has already proved it was wrongly attributed to Julia Gilliard and was never said or written by any of the other Australian PMs either.

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pinkballetflats · 23/05/2013 00:46

No, I'm not saying he claims to be Muslim...but from what I've seen on my FB feed and various things I've been reading across the net there seems to be a lot of assumption that he is Muslim and I'm wondering why?

The grey coat he's wearing would show blood spatter, it's not that dark IMO.

I have no idea whether there's more to it or not, and I'm not assuming anything..it was just the first thing that jumped out at me...uniform blood covering on his one hand that he keeps holding up and on the knife and the hand holding it but no blood anywhere else.

Regardless of that jumping out at me, it's incidental - there's a man lying in a morgue somewhere and a grieving family.

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BMW6 · 23/05/2013 00:59

STOP and remember there are psychopaths and nasty bastards from each and every country. (and religion)

Totally agree. A number of people have been attacked with knives, axes and machetes in the recent past. In this country. By all sorts of perpetrators, of all races and religions. They only have one thing in common - they are all Sociopaths.

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pinkballetflats · 23/05/2013 01:10

Sorry, mimishimi...I finally caught him saying "By Allah..." in the footage...took me 5 listens to get that. Fair enough.

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Mimishimi · 23/05/2013 01:14

I've never heard a Muslim say "By Allah" though .. It's always Allahu Akbar. Are they converts I wonder?

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pinkballetflats · 23/05/2013 01:20

I've only had the privilege of one lovely Muslim friend and we never really talked religion except in passing (we shared a love of a certain series of books) so I wouldn't know.

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