To be shocked and frustrated with the Islamophobia that's bursting out all over Facebook today?

[Seekingsense]

Following the awful tragedy in Woolwich today.

I have seen everything from "We want our England back" to "Kick out all the foreigners" to "Islamic infiltration of the UK" etc. I have paraphrased as some of the stuff is so horrible I do not want to repeat it.

This is from normal everyday people and lots of them. Is this really what people think?

I, like most people am horrified by what has happened to this young soldier in Woolwich, but why is everyone so quick to blame an entire religion for it and to jump on the 'kick out all immigrants' bandwagon.

What can we do about it? Ignore, delete, post, report?

[getyourheadout]

thats the good thing about facebook , you can write what you want , its your opinion on your wall ,im glad people say what they think ,too many people stick their head in the sand ,dont want to see whats going on right under their nose , at least facebook lets you see real peoples views instead of all this pc claptrap .

[flippinada]

It's not either/or situation. You can be horrified by what happened, feel compassion for the victim and simultaneously be concerned about the awful knee jerk racism that inevitably follows.

[Dawndonna]

pc claptrap? getyourheadout? Appropriate name.
It's not pc claptrap, it's a speaking against racism. That's not pc, it's the right thing to do. I do not welcome bigots anywhere.

[urtwistingmymelonman]

I was pointing out that the focus here should be on the horrific crime that has been commited but it seems by some peoples comments on here that that has become the secondary issue.

[ParsingFancy]

Well last night MNers in Woolwich were going to bed afraid because the EDL had turned up and attacked police in their streets. And two mosques have been attacked.

So I think the secondary issue is also important.

And just for clarity, the secondary issue is "not having racial and religious violence", not "not offending muslims".

[Ray81]

I cannot actually believe what someone in my family has just written.

Ok..... So some people are not going to like this but who is to blame for all the Muslims that live in our country? WE ARE. We let them live in our country by there own rule not ours!! We let them build mosques anywhere they want to !! We let them do what they want when they want! What do they have to do before we stand up and say FUCK OFF !! Because we've told by for so long and it's too late and we should be ashamed of ourselves.

My jaw just met the floor I cannot actually believe people think this way. They will be deleted.

I want to call them on it but I could say so much ok don't actually know where to start

[EagleRiderDirk]

I'm fearing for my muslim friends today, as I know the backlash they've received in the wake of other events. As well as my friends who look remotely Asian, regardless of their religion.

I'm sure I can say for everyone on this thread how appalled they are and how much they're thinking of the poor man and his family and friends. But that doesn't mean we can't all be angry about stupid racist outpourings in the wake of it.

[cory]

urtwisting, there are numerous threads about this tragic incident on MN: expressing horror and sympathy with family, criticising the police etc. This one happens to be the thread about islamophobia. So that#s what it's about.

[EagleRiderDirk]

P.s. I do know the perpetrators weren't Asian, but my Asian friends often get abuse when people go mad at muslims

[TSSDNCOP]

I've got a newsfeed message saying "deport them all back to Islam"

[ithaka]

This sort of thread makes me realise I have cool friends - and reminds me why I am friends with them. There have been candle lighting posts and posts in sympathy for the sad loss of a young man's life. But i have seen absolutely no racist rants on my Facebook. I love my friends and family.

[ParsingFancy]

Actually scrub that.

Not having religious and racial violence is the primary issue.

Inciting such hatred was (very likely) the purpose of this attack. Anyone who joins in with the hatred is doing just what the murderers' want.

[ParsingFancy]

meh, stray apostrophe

[CrapsWithBears]

I'm ashamed that my own family members are sharing and liking this stuff. I'm using it as a litmus test to delete racists and bigots now.

[lottieandmia]

'I don't care what race or religion those evil men are but to do something so horrific to one of our soldiers is unacceptable and they shouldn't be in this country'

This is the kind of ignorant comment I've seen on facebook. The liklihood is the people who did this were born here ffs.

[lottieandmia]

' Remember the old saying "sticks and stones...".'

Sorry Ophelia but that is just rubbish isn't it? Words and propaganda are extremely damaging - how could you possibly argue otherwise?

[fromparistoberlin]

AGREE

i have seen 2, first about the Oxford sex abuse then one yesterday

I responded to both , yay! fucking sick of racism, no more will I let these comments pass me by

Fucks sake, the Woolwich guys were murderous fucking sociopaths

DONT BRING ISLAM INTO IT

[Lazyjaney]

Is it just me who finds the whole thing a bit strange? the media were all very quick to talk about muslim terrorism, when it could be MH issues or something, they are usually more sceptical like in Tenerife.

Also, the police took quite a while to get there, in London?) and these guys apparently hung around waiting for them. Something here just doesn't seem right.

[SusanneLinder]

I stayed away from fb pretty much. I think there is only one person that I cam imagine I may need to delete. Will read tonight

[FairyJen]

Dp is a journalist he is saying they believe the bloke with sarf London accent is actually Somalian

[lottieandmia]

My brain switches off to anyone who says 'fuck off back to your own country' tbh. As I said, ignorant.

[lottieandmia]

This reminds me of the riots - some people bigots used that as am excuse to air their racists leanings. It says far more about them than anyone else.

[threesypeesy]

It isn't ignorance if your killing I this country out of warpped retaliation you dont deserve to be here unlike the thousands of otheds that have settled and made good lives fkr themselves and respect the country

[seeker]

Show them this. It might make them shut up for long enough for you to delete them.