to think the teacher shouldn't have called DN a bloody stupid twat?

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DN was working on a compter yesterday and leaned back in his chair (shouldn't have done this) but he knocked over a cup of coffee that went over coursework. The teacher yelled at DN and called him a bloody stupid twat.

DN wasn't bothered and seemed to find it quite funny but I think I'd probably have to say something to the teacher concerned along the lines of it not being acceptable. DN is in Year 10 by the way (15.)

AIBU?

C999875: " Not only that but surley drinking coffee around electrical devices is very unsafe. "

Really? You've never drunk a cup of tea or coffee while at the computer/on a laptop/on a 'phone?

Wine or beer I can understand. That makes your keyboard very sticky if you spill it and takes a lot of cleaning.

And no, if a 15 year old student shared with a teacher the scenario above, but about his parent in place of the teacher, and he was finding it funny, social services would not be called.

You know, I distinctly remember drinking hot beverages around my children when they were small. Perhaps SS would have been interested?
I put my coffee behind my desk, on the windowsill, and in almost 30 years, nothing has been spilled on papers or on a person.
Nor have I sworn at a child.

the teaching assistant in dd2 reception class managed to spill coffee twice over tge same child!! Having coffee near course work is just begging for trouble if you ask me

the teaching assistant in dd2 reception class managed to spill coffee twice over tge same child!! Having coffee near course work is just begging for trouble if you ask me

What's the point in this post? So one TA definitely was being a twat so therefore no teachers/TAs can drink coffee?

Hi Incrediblephattheinkeeeprscan I love the name B.T.W. Anyway here goes. Yes! really I have never drunk coffee near a lap top, and I happen not to appriciate teachers swearing at children and if that makes me out of touch them so be it. xx

Omm it's called making conversation picturepuncture

No Picture puncture teachers should not be allowed to drink coffee around children! Is not what their staff room breaks are for, perhaps I'm wrong though.
I know one thing if coffee was spilled on my child. I would not be very happy. xx

15 year olds are not children. Do you not drink coffee at home in front of teenagers?

Ffs.

No one is saying that what the teacher said was good. Just that it's probably not something to get massively het up about.

My break usually allows me enough time to make a coffee. Drink it? No chance.

I think it maybe makes people feel important to go and complain (can't understand why else you would bother to go and defend your nephew who neither needs nor wants any defence).

No one is saying teachers should be allowed to swear at children but as others have said teachers are human beings and your dn was in the wrong actually.

If your dn was my son I would have been cross with him for swinging on his chair, knocking over the teacher's coffee and then laughing at the chaos he caused.

I still love the fact that some MNetters think teachers get regular, protected breaks. Every Day. I wish!

What do they think happens to the DCs during these periods? Surely being left alone is slightly worse in terms of H and S than a lukwarm cup of tea?

That kind of language should never be acceptable.

I'm astounded at how many people think it's ok. If my manager called me that, I'd be fuming, so whys it acceptable to call a pupil that?
Teachers shouldn't be calling any pupil names, imo

'I'm astounded at how many people think it's ok'

I'll bet that is because their children are much younger than 15 and would be furious if a teacher said that to their child.They cannot imagine their DC being that age,

My DS is almost 15. I still wouldn't find it acceptable.

sorry wux I am agreeing with you .I meant they have their little child goggles on and think older children are some how less precious.

I had no idea twat meant what mnetters suggest and have often said it in fun - well wont be doing that again. My dear bro also a teacher also thought it was quite innocuos. I guess we had a sheltered upbringing!

Wux, you wouldn't find it acceptable but would you complain about it to the school?

The last few posters who are saying they wouldn't accept being called a twat in the work place...
So if you were doing something you shouldn't and because of your carelessness some work that was irreplaceable and your colleague had spent weeks working on got ruined and your response was to laugh you wouldn't expect to be called a slightly offensive name?
Unless you work in a nunnery you are talking rubbish.

YANBU, my teachers would have been absolutely bollocked if they swore, and I was at a bog standard secondary (albeit with great Science/maths Ofstead reports, which apparently makes the school great? ). I don't think it's appropriate for a teacher to call any student a name. Especially not something that huge over something so minor.

I mean seriously.
Coffee.
It's the teacher's fault for putting the coffee next to coursework, what sort of twat idiot would do that when there are kids around?

Picturepuncture, I would certainly raise the issue with the school.

Domino, the case in point involves teacher/child. She is in the position of authority and meant to set an example.

Using such language is not professional.

Domino, it was the teacher's fault the coffee was next to the work.
The boy laughed after being called a twat, not at what he had done.
Teacher is in the position of authority and shouldn't be name calling.

C999875 Mon 20-May-13 14:00:46
"No Picture puncture teachers should not be allowed to drink coffee around children! Is not what their staff room breaks are for, perhaps I'm wrong though.
I know one thing if coffee was spilled on my child. I would not be very happy."

So what do you do when your 15yo gets a Saturday job? Tell his boss he mustn't be around anything hot or sharp?

15yos are not babies. They are people who will be adults in 3 years time, people who need to get used to functioning in the workplace, people whose very education demands that they should be around dangerous equipment and do handle dangerous chemical substances.

Everybody agrees that it is unprofessional for a teacher to swear. It was wrong, it shouldn't have happened.

What most of us do not agree with is that when something unprofessional happens in front of a 15yo, the appropriate response is for Mummy to steam in and complain.

A 15yo should get used to negotiate his own way with teachers unless there is a serious situation that is beyond him. This is not it.

I have teens myself. It is my job to prepare them for the adult world, not to fight every battle on their behalf.

And in this case, there wasn't even a battle to be fought; the boy wasn't traumatised but mildly amused. He was dealing with it in a sensible way, recognising its incongruity but coping. He'll probably go far in the world- unless his mum keeps poking her nose in.

Thank you cory, an excellent post.