to think the teacher shouldn't have called DN a bloody stupid twat?

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DN was working on a compter yesterday and leaned back in his chair (shouldn't have done this) but he knocked over a cup of coffee that went over coursework. The teacher yelled at DN and called him a bloody stupid twat.

DN wasn't bothered and seemed to find it quite funny but I think I'd probably have to say something to the teacher concerned along the lines of it not being acceptable. DN is in Year 10 by the way (15.)

AIBU?

In our school we aren't allowed hot drinks in the classroom (or any drinks, for that matter) but we are primary.

As for leaning back in his chair, one poster upthread wondered why it was a big deal and why shouldn't he? It's annoying, quite frankly. And dangerous. We start telling our pupils not to do it from the moment they get to school, in nursery, so he should know by now not to do it! I say, leaning back in my chair this very second

I did it at home after retirement age being lazy - I swore at myself- after I got over my shock and somehow managed to get up off the floor and out of the chair. < Still got goods abs even if everything else has gone to pot
Never too old to do stupid things .

In Britain twat is synonymous with twit

No it most definitely isn't!!.

My sympathies are with the kid who has to re do his/her coursework.

I have called my once 15 year old lads twats. Probably wouldn't at work though as in reception class!

I have only a digital dictionary, and shows twit and twat, but too complicated for me to find the meaning of twat.
Anyone got a dictionary that defines what twat means in english?

digerd see Holyberrybush's post at 14.22

If your DS is fine about it I wouldn't raise a mountain out of the molehill.

Why shouldn't the teacher have a cup if coffee in the classroom. It's common practice in any school ive worked in. I always have a brew while I'm teaching as I get a dry throat when talking all day and I don't get any breaks always on bloody duty. Sounds like the lad was messing around.
It's not appropriate for the teacher to call him a twat but we have all said something inappropriate when shocked and that coursework will all have to be redone!

AKiss
Thanks. I did look it up myself and found 2 websites.
1st.
definition female Vulva. May have originated from Old Norse in the 17th century.

Meaning - cut, slit or forest clearing.
2nd as Hollyberry bush said.

I have heard of the expression ' stop being like a big girl's blouse' to a an older boy/man, which I find quite amusing, but not sure what that actually means..

Completely unprofessional to use language like that. Teacher probably knows it.

I've been out all day and just catching up.

3 things to add, 1. Of course the teacher knows he shouldn't have said, it clearly slipped out in the heat of the moment.

1. I can't stop laughing at the idea that a class of 15 year olds needs protecting from one hot drink in the classroom.

Oh and 3, to the poster who asked if my pupils are allowed hot drinks- no. Two reasons, 30 cups of tea clearly more of a h&s issue than 1, and I don't abide by the same rules as the kids on this issue, for the same reason I don't wear school uniform or refer to the headmaster as 'sir'.

I think this thread is really odd. Why is OP so exercised on the part of her nephew who didn't seem that bothered himself an also has parents to worry if necessary on his behalf?

For Gods sake - who would be a teacher! Dealing with kids all day, harassed by ofsted et al and totally at the mercy of any busybody who just wants to 'go up the school' and have a good old criticise.

And as for the 'teachers not allowed a cup of tea in the classroom' words fail me except to say get a life maybe.

frilly!

About the drinks issue only on mn; my classroom is so far from the staffroom, that by the time I get there at break (following short detentions/discussions/trying to get through the same corridor that 1000 kids are in) I have time to make a brew then have to make the trek back; so unless I have my drink in a lidded mug I'm wondering when I would have the chance to have a drink (knowing I also run a lunch club but that I should be doing from the goodness of my heart and not worry about eating/drinking in order to survive..)

The language issue; (sorry for shouting!) WE ARE HUMAN! and therefore we may have a slip of the tongue. This however is shouting fuck off to a 4 year old, it is telling a 15 year old they are a twat (which where I live is not that bad!)

The op that critiqued grammar and spelling - we are not in work, we are having a discussion on the internet and therefore we are allowed to drop the perfection persona for a few hours

I thought I had read some idealistic responses on mn over the years about how teachers should behave/speak/act but this thread has really taken it to the extreme...perhaps we should just have robots in a classroom but I can already see the threads now.....

not shouting fuck off I meant to say! but I am sat here at this late hour, only just finishing marking/planning and writing yr 8 reports....

I agree with Macnewpants2013. What on earth was the teacher doing drinking coffee in a classroom any way. Surley this breaches safety regulations. Ok I know the children are 14/15 or are they 15/16 but even so. Not only that but surley drinking coffee around electrical devices is very unsafe.
15 or not it was very very inapropriate for a professional teacher to use such language. I do not use offensive words in front of my 14 year old and I am damn sure I would not let anyone else do this. Also imagine if you called your child a twat and he went into school and mentioned this, we all know what the teachers would (probably)do, inform social services. I appriecate they are human like ravenAk says but perhaps if they cannot handle working with children then they should consider an alternative career. xx

4got 2 ask B4 but what is D.N acronym for. Thankx in advance. xx

Also imagine if you called your child a twat and he went into school and mentioned this, we all know what the teachers would (probably)do, inform social services

I am quite sure social services (and teachers) have better things to do...

But I did put in the word probably so there is my defence. xx

Oh, right then. In which case you are (probably) a twat talking rubbish.

Yeah that's me, but I can laugh insults off. x

phew

If one of my teachers in Y10 called me a twat I'd have worn that fucker like the badge of honour that it is!

I'm a bit over the coffee-in-the-classroom thing. I'm only in my late 20's, but still, I don't remember a single teacher's desk that didn't have a tepid cup of tea or coffee as an adornment. A teacher without a rapidly-cooling drink was like a person without a face (unless they did P.E. or chemistry, for some reason I had several chemistry teachers that preferred to hide whisky in the store cupboard. Even at the time, we sort of knew we had driven them to it.)

I still, to this day, remember our enthusiastic history teacher in Y8 declaring that so-and-so had so-and-so "by the short and curlies!". It wasn't even a swear word, but we didn't half listen closely after that, just in case one dropped out. (One did drop out eventually, but in fairness we were a year that went through 6 maths teachers in 2 years. Some of my classmates had serious skills in the annoying twat department ).

I had a French teacher who could be seen at the start of every school year bringing in a case of Macallan to the staff room, so am a bit at all the argy bargy over coffee. Mind you he also once clipped the ear of a particularly obnoxious boy, who protested saying he would have him up for assault. The teacher asked the rest of the class if anyone had seen anything and they all said no! This was a grammar school in the 80s, the teachers wouldn't have called us twats though not until 6th form anyway.

"I agree with Macnewpants2013. What on earth was the teacher doing drinking coffee in a classroom any way. Surley this breaches safety regulations. Ok I know the children are 14/15 or are they 15/16 but even so. Not only that but surley drinking coffee around electrical devices is very unsafe. "

Probably trying to keep her voice lubricated given that it is unlikely she will get any time during the school day to sit down quietly in a safe place and have a drink. I find after 4 hours of lecturing that I develop a tickly cough that makes it difficult for me to speak at all, water doesn't help to ease it, but coffee does.

"Also imagine if you called your child a twat and he went into school and mentioned this, we all know what the teachers would (probably)do, inform social services."

Do you really believe this scenario is at all probable? I can imagine social services using fairly robust language to a teacher who wasted their time in such an indefensible way.

Of course we all know the teachers shouldn't have said it. The question is whether it is a meaningful use of anybody's time to launch a complaint every time somebody does something they shouldn't. As a parent I would hope that my dc's school does not apply that approach to me.

As I said earlier I want my teens to learn to distinguish between:

unacceptable = you shouldn't do this

and

unacceptable = I have to challenge this

And if I don't teach them nobody will.

Life is full on injustices that it is your moral duty to challenge. If you waste your energy on minor issues you won't be able to do it effectively.

Absolutely disgraceful that a teacher should be allowed a hot drink during the day. Dry bread and water at a push, but coffee? Far too luxurious. Much better that teenagers are cosseted and never around hot drinks to keep them safe.