to think the teacher shouldn't have called DN a bloody stupid twat?

[wetspringday]

DN was working on a compter yesterday and leaned back in his chair (shouldn't have done this) but he knocked over a cup of coffee that went over coursework. The teacher yelled at DN and called him a bloody stupid twat.

DN wasn't bothered and seemed to find it quite funny but I think I'd probably have to say something to the teacher concerned along the lines of it not being acceptable. DN is in Year 10 by the way (15.)

AIBU?

YABU.

This thread is hilarious. No wonder our school leavers are useless!

Priceless, Icredible! [big grin] - I'll also write that should they should make sure they get their break and lunchtime even if there is an incident they need to deal with, pupil crying, pupils fighting, pupil asking for help, break duty to carry out etc. as that is when they should have their hot drink. Some MNetters said so!

Personally I would find it unprofessional to swear at work, whether in front of a student or in front of my boss. So I don't.

But the idea of regarding a boy who will be leaving home and making his own way in the world in 3 years time as someone who has to be protected from being in the same room as a hot drink- well, that does worry me.

(and there I was hoping dc would be able to save up for their tuition fees by waitressing)

I'm a teacher and every school I've been in we're allowed coffee/tea in the classroom!

'Why is tea/coffee any less professional than a bottle of water?'

Well, she says it's water...

That sounds perfect, Blissx.

Also, you raise a point about break duty. Should this also be subjected to the no hot drinks rule? Standing in a freezing mid-Jan playground is made a tiny bit more bearable by having a mug to warm your hands a little.

My higher geography teacher had 'posh coffees' complete with all singing all dancing machines in his classroom. There were 6 of us in the class and we all had a great relationship with him. I could see how some parents might have found him inappropriate but he treated us like adults and we responded well to that. Though I'm not a coffee drinker and thought the room just reeked, didn't stop me from eating the biscuits. He often said worse things than twat, none of us batted an eyelid.

Goblin -

Love that word "gormless"- haven't heard it for ages.

DN sounds like a very childish 15 year-old.
I leant back in my chair at home to reach something behind me and ended up on the floor with chair underneath me. I was stupid and didn't do that again.
Knocked the teacher's coffee all over his papers and DN laughed? That was very disrespectful and rude. What if it had been a computor at work? He'd have got more than being called a twat.

We also have parents who will tell us that if little Johnny doesn't do enough work that we are to keep them in at break or lunch to make them do it or that little Mary has a sniffle so isn't allowed to go out to play and must be looked after during break time and lunchtime.
I wonder if they ever think of the fact we then can't go for a break to get a drink/go for a wee as children can't be left unsupervised.

No I don't think that was acceptable language from a teacher but I also don't think it needs complaining about either.

As a parent I appreciate the efforts teachers have made for additional revision sessions etc, yes I know she could revise at home but I couldn't answer questions if she had any.

Both dd2 &3 have hot drinks in classrooms too not just the teachers.

It is an important life skill to know the difference between:

unacceptable = I mustn't do this

and

unacceptable = I must intervene to protest against this

Sometimes it is your duty to put a stop to something, sometimes just to make a mental note that it is best avoided.

That is yet another skill I want my teens to learn.

A few my classes that have just left have bought me a posh coffee machine for my classroom . I wonder if any of their parents are mumsnetters.

I do not call my DS a twat.

But I am SO pleased that my every interaction in the workplace, especially when I am dealing with huge numbers of teens, is not subject to scrutiny.

I would never call a pupil a twat and it is unacceptable .

TheFallenMadonna

We change over early.

In Britain twat is synonymous with twit. In America however it is very offensive.

I'm British and I think twit is a childlike term, and has quite an affectonate ring to it which is completely lacking in 'twat'.

I don't take 'twat' to be synonymous to 'cunt' though, as they do in America and Canada, i.e actually being slang for vagina.

twat

/twät/

Noun

1.vulgar. A woman's genitals.
2.vulgar. A person regarded as stupid or obnoxious.

(if so, I hope his teachers are MNers)

It's a health and safety (gone mad?) issue in our school - we are not allowed to walk down corridors with a hot drink.

It would not bother me and tbh the teacher will probably have more respect from the kids for being a bit 'street style' in his attitude.

I don't think calling someone a twat counts as street style.

Would OP have preferred him to have been called a clumsy fucking idiot?

I'd never heard of the word "twat", until I came on MN. I realised at once that it wasn't a compliment, but it relating to a Vagina hadn't occurred to me as men have been called it and they don't have one.

And a vagina is not in any way stupid- it is the passageway to creation and birth .
That's me off my soapbox now.