AIBU?
SofaKing · 17/05/2013 18:38
I particularly liked the fact that he accused the protesters of being racist.
I do hope his next Scottish gig is in Govan, that would be hilarious. If he thinks a group of students shouting at him is intimidating, I wonder how he will feel about a group of people brandishing chibs?
HumilityYetStrength · 17/05/2013 18:40
YABU
I'm English and support Scotland having the right to vote on independence. It's a disgrace that the big 3 English parties refused this until recently.
The UK with/without Scotland should have the right to vote re EU. As should every country.
Why should anyone try to stop this debate? You should value the right of your fellow Scots to hear all sides of the debate.
If you have heard Farrage incite racial hatred, then call the police as it's a crime IF it's provable.
HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 18:44
Humility, The UK did vote on the EU... in 1975. They voted to stay in. Is that not enough or should we be voting every five years as we do our government?
I'm not Scottish btw, I'm English. I've only ever been to Scotland twice, but they have shown the bravery to say things people in England have shied away from. That UKIP stand for nothing much more than xenophobia. They may do all the right things in public but the beating heart of the party is filled to capacity with people who don't like immigrants.
chibi · 17/05/2013 18:45
how on earth was debate prevented? this is a person who, as a party leader can make political broadcasts on tv/radio, appear on news roundtable programs, have print interviews and columns appear, leaflet neighbourhoods, direct candidates, publish views on a website...
so some people jeered and booed. i don't see as how he is prevented from expressing his views. why does his wish to speak trump their desire to not have to hear him? surely he could take his message elsewhere where it might be better received?
freedom of speech does not equal a guarantee of an audience. tough tits, nigel, that's politics.
pointythings · 17/05/2013 18:47
I think Farage is a dangerous scumbag, but he should be allowed to say his piece and any demonstration should be peaceful and respectful. Shouting over someone doesn't further the debate.
However, as soon as Farage resorts to name calling, as he did in the European Parliament, all bets are off.
chibi · 17/05/2013 18:53
i meant to add a heartfelt thanks to the people that told him to shove it
just existing here as a non british person feels like one damn microagression after another- constant reminders of how you are wrecking everything with the sheer fact of your continued existence, and that you will never ever belong (coupled with hatred because you aren't trying hard enough to belong )
reading this story was a tonic
Sheshelob · 17/05/2013 19:01
Chibi
I know what you mean. My parents and husband are immigrants and I can hardly contain my fury at the scapegoating that UKIP have become the mouthpiece for in this country. Frustrating that the same old shit is being trotted out. Surely we're all a bit better than this?
HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 19:04
Weegie I think all the success of the local elections went to his head.
I don't know about the arguments for or against Scottish independence, but his comments about Scottish nationalism was akin to facism could surely be applied to British independence (from Europe), thus making them facists too? Why is Scottish independence facism but British independence is valid debate?
Sparhawk · 17/05/2013 19:05
Speaking of UKIP, has anyone seen this headline from today? UKIP donor brand women who wear jeans 'hostile' to men it's amazing how many shady bigoted people are associated with UKIP, yet they still get a free pass.
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