to feel very proud of the Scots' reaction to Nigel Farage?

[HeadFairy]

Particularly the man who yelled at him "foreigners are welcome in Scotland, you're not!"

:o

Head Fairy, go and tell that to the elderly round our way who have had meals on wheels stopped because resources have had to be diverted into class rooms with huge numbers of non English speakers needing heavy support.

Go and tell that to the midwives desperately struggling with the un precedented surge in birth rates and no help in numbers to deliver all these babies. Go and tell that to women, at the most vulnerable moment of their lives as they struggle to get one mw to attend them, or the women turned away because their wards are full and they are in labour.

And I think it will do Farage no harm. For him to succeed seems increasingly to require no more than the extreme fuckwittedness of his opponents.

When challenged about his lack of knowledge on Scottish politics on an interview to the BBC this morning he hung up the phone, claiming the "BBC hates me".

claig why were they bullies? There was absolutely no violence and NF was allowed to speak whilst in the pub - the crowd objected to his politics and made this known.

He also should get a map of Scotland as he was campaigning 138 miles away from the constituency he came up to visit.

Yoni -you can't 'divert' funds

We need immigration.

I understand that you don't like protest, Claig, but I don't believe you speak for the majority of people, or are entitled to use the word "we" in that way.

And, gosh, no, to reiterate - there is absolutely no appetite for UKIP in Scotland. There are protest voters, yes, but the channels for their protest votes are well established and very different.

Yonis, I'm sorry you had a bad experience in Scotland. Don't let it stop you coming back, it's not a story I recognise.

I disagree with you on the issue of immigration. And I would be astonished if any immigrants (or those with a family history of immigration) would ever consider voting UKIP.

Just feel relieved for Farage that he didn't decide to visit Glasgow instead

Scotland has a huge amount of English living here YonisAreForever.
My small Highland village is about half and half, and Edinburgh has almost as many English accents as Scottish.
You clearly were unlucky with the people you met.

As someone born in England, resident in Edinburgh for many years and raising a daughter born here, I would like to add to this a discussion

A) not only I am proud, of the frankly fairly mellow, treatment Farage received, I am very pleased that the migrant population were able to see that there is support for them, when we attended the anti BNP demonstrations in Edinburgh, we heard from the many 'foreign' (born here but with funny skin ) locals on the royal mile that the police had come round and told them the best thing they could do was shut up shop for the day
Some did, many declined and were actively out handing out water and thanking people for showing their support. For me that was as much the point of the demonstration as showing the BNP they're not welcome.

B) the figures on immigration are so fucking unreliable that I'm hesitant to quote them but I do know that Edinburgh receives more migrants on student visas than any other kind of visa. These people go in to be the doctors and surgeons who save your kids life.

C) It's Glasgow they send asylum seekers off too, to the flats no sane person would want to live, where they are entitled to absolutely fucking nothing and at risk of imprisonment and deportation at any time with no notice. Jumping from tower blocks is not uncommon.

No one would leave the safety of their native country just to be treat like begging scum who deserve to die.

Many of these people are fleeing from war zones our government created, after losing their home, school, job, family and friends, very likely having seen everyone and everything they have ever known ripped apart by bombs YOUR taxes paid for after being raped, beaten, hidden inside the back of a lorry with their dead and decaying corpses of the travelling companions.

If they finally make it here alive, yes there should be a fucking open door policy!

Meals on wheels are stopped because of foreigners? I really have heard it all now.

'claig why were they bullies?'

From what we saw on TV, there will people right up in his face shouting abuse at him, and as someone said, he looked like he was "bricking it" , and he seemed to be grateful for the police protection.

'I understand that you don't like protest, Claig, but I don't believe you speak for the majority of people, or are entitled to use the word "we" in that way.'

I am all for protest. 50 people protesting is fine, but I don't think it is as representative as the 2 million people who came to London to protest against the Iraq war - whose views Tony Blair ignored.

I am all for protest, but I am not in favour of intimidatory protest, and I think the British people are not either. 50 protestors do not represent the British people.

'There are protest voters, yes, but the channels for their protest votes are well established and very different.'

the whole point of UKIP is that they are anti the establishment parties and represent a surge of democratic protest against them due to a feeling that these elites have ignored teh public's wishes and failed to represent them. Maybe some Scottish people will no longer protest in "established" patterns and may protest against establishment parties, just as many English people did. i think that is what the 50 or so protestors are worried about and that is why their protest was so intimidatory.

There is only one winner from this incident and it is Farage and not the rowdy rabble.

Yonis go and tell that to the elderly round our way who have had meals on wheels stopped because resources have had to be diverted into class rooms with huge numbers of non English speakers needing heavy support

that is due to poor management of local services, across the country our population is ageing massively. And if we don't invest in those people who've invested to come here, and support them and teach them well, then there will be no one to look after the huge population of old people - most of whom don't have pension provisions.

Yoni

Lay out an immigration policy that would be acceptable on planet Yoni. I am genuinely interested.

Wish Farage had visited Glasgow. He'd have been locked in - with some weegies now that would have even interesting!

Not a fan of UKIP or Nigel Farage by any means. But I do find it disturbing, this trend of violent threatening protest against people who disagree with you politically. Rather reminds me of the brownshirts.

Yep. My husband took the outrage pie right out of their hands while my mum ran away with the crumble.

I didn't see any violence.
Since when was legitimate protest a bad thing, we live in a democracy.

Cottage not outrage!!

Although I reckon Yoni's had her fair share of outrage pie.

The protest wasn't violent. But yes, you are perfectly correct - telling a bawbag that they are a bawbag is exactly the same as the brownshirts. Well done.

Telling a racist their a baw bag makes you a nazi and foreigners stole granny's dinner.

Eh?

The news report I was watching gave the impression of violence or certainly the threat of it. They said that Farage had to hide in the pub and be rescued by the police.

The Brownshirts used to threaten and intimidate their political opponents with threats of violence, breaking up their political meetings behaving in much the same way this crowd did.

But women are GIVING BIRTH ON THE STREETS because of foreigns and their massive families.

My mum is out stealing the roofs over people's heads as I type. She may be in her 60s, but she's up that ladder, stealing away.

Oh I'm with you all the way, kneebeef. The first thing that I think when I see a bunch of people shouting "bawbag" at a thicko racist fuck is that they must be the paramilitary wing of the Nazis. After all, there is little difference between shouting "bawbag" and beating someone over the head with a bat until you crack their skull.

Troglodyte nationalists, be they English, Scottish or of any other type, are welcome to each other's company as far as I'm concerned.

It would make my year if Salmond and Farage, whose policies are purely directed by populism, locked each other into a political death spiral.

Oooo! What is a political death spiral? Sounds bloody exciting.