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to feel very proud of the Scots' reaction to Nigel Farage?

404 replies

HeadFairy · 17/05/2013 18:32

Particularly the man who yelled at him "foreigners are welcome in Scotland, you're not!"

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Wallison · 17/05/2013 22:01

^^and projected him onto every TV screen across the land.

... looking like a fanny.

claig · 17/05/2013 22:02

Of course he did. He milked it and some suckers and radicals raised his profile higher than a helium balloon. These fools danced to his tune.

fishybits · 17/05/2013 22:04

I am living in Scotland at the moment. I have been told to my face that I will not be able to get a job in the local town because I am English.

Can someone please explain to me how that is not racist.

flippinada · 17/05/2013 22:05

Not really buying the portrayal of Farage as some sort of dynamic political mastermind who has his finger on the pulse of Scottish politics, to be honest.

claig · 17/05/2013 22:06

' I have been told to my face that I will not be able to get a job in the local town because I am English.'

If that was said, then it is an absolute disgrace.

FreudiansSlipper · 17/05/2013 22:06

Just watching it on the news Nige calling the protestors fascists hilarious when he can witter on about immigration or Europe he really has nothing to say

teejwood · 17/05/2013 22:09

Claig people need to know what Farage and his ilk really stand for - because only when that cancer is exposed to the light will people realise it for what it is.

Going back to Cable Street - the reporting of that event helped to turn the English populace against Moseley and his blackshirts. Right-thinking people barricaded the East End. Many were arrested and brutally treated. But it ensured the tide of opinion went against the fascists. Sometimes we need to shout and call a spade a spade.

tabulahrasa · 17/05/2013 22:09

The footage I saw wasn't go home - it was take your EU salary and go home...which I thought was fairly amusing.

You've also got to bear in mind that the police did not have to take him into the pub for his own safety, the protesters let him get into a taxi - albeit chanting as he went, he ended up back in the pub because the taxi driver refused to take him, so they took him back inside and waited for a police van instead.

Not quite as dramatic as a mob not allowing him to leave and having to wait for police protection...

fishybits · 17/05/2013 22:10

Said to me and others. It's a not uncommon when applying for local jobs up here.

Some Scots are deeply racist against the English and not ashamed to say so.

claig · 17/05/2013 22:10

'Not really buying the portrayal of Farage as some sort of dynamic political mastermind who has his finger on the pulse of Scottish politics, to be honest.'

i don't think he is a mastermind. He just wanted a pint and to speak to some journalists. He never imagined that some suckers would gift him the publicity that he has achieved 1 month before a by-election.

With fools like these ranged against him, he may even get an MEP in Scotland in next year's European elections.

teejwood · 17/05/2013 22:14

"He just wanted a pint and to speak to some journalists."
Bollocks. The Royal Mile is hardly the most low profile venue in Edinburgh.

Perihelion · 17/05/2013 22:14

I thought it was two taxis. The first wouldn't take him. The second had it's path blocked by a woman in a wheelchair. If you spout shite in a public house, be prepared to be called a bawbag.

Wallison · 17/05/2013 22:15

It's not very good publicity though, is it?

I mean, he looks like even more of a twat now than he did already.

AberdeenAngusina · 17/05/2013 22:15

He will never get an MEP in Scotland. Most Scots are deeply amused by the whole thing. He performed very badly on Radio Scotland, when he couldn't cope with the questions and hung up on the interviewer.

It was a primarily student protest. It wasn't violent. Some of the remarks were funny. The Guardian journalist who was there said it was mostly good-natured. Farange's outrage just makes him look like a total numpty.

claig · 17/05/2013 22:16

'The Royal Mile is hardly the most low profile venue in Edinburgh'

But didn't some of the BBC coverage try to imply that Farage knew little about Scotland.

WhereYouLeftIt · 17/05/2013 22:16

I just don't buy the "all publicity is good publicity" line.

Yes, it has raised his profile, but it has shown him up as a petulant hypocrite who called the Scots protesters 'fascist' for telling him to go back to England when he doesn't consider himself fascist for telling immigrants to go back to where they came from. He has tried to cultivate the image of 'man of the people' and I think this incident knocks that image somewhat. It has highlighted his stunning lack of self-awareness.

claig · 17/05/2013 22:17

' If you spout shite in a public house, be prepared to be called a bawbag.'

That must be one of the most common insults then.

tabulahrasa · 17/05/2013 22:17

It's still not quite the threat of violence that some people seem to think it is, one taxi telling him to get out and a woman in a wheelchair stopping the next...watching extended footage of it rather than just highlights it seemed fairly civilised as far as protests go.

teejwood · 17/05/2013 22:18

Oh Claig, please, you don't need to know much about Edinburgh or Scotland to know the Royal Mile is in the centre of Edinburgh, heavily populated with students due to its proximity to Edinburgh University and a place to get noticed!

claig · 17/05/2013 22:19

'It's not very good publicity though, is it?

I mean, he looks like even more of a twat now than he did already.'

It has done him no harm in England. Read the comments in the Daily Mail underneath that article. The best rated green arrows have about 4000 votes.

Also, I think that he is right and that this rabble is not representative of Scottish voters.

teejwood · 17/05/2013 22:19

"It has highlighted his stunning lack of self-awareness."
^^ this. And more, please, so people can see him for what he is.

teejwood · 17/05/2013 22:21

Claig he got vv little coverage in England because no-one took him seriously. People didn't really know what UKIP REALLY stands for, which made them an easy protest vote. Once you know the reality, they aren't such an attractive option.

KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 17/05/2013 22:21

I say this as someone half-Scottish - the tendency of Scots to get together, vehemently agree with each other and vociferously shout down all dissenting voices leads to them missing the point time and time again. This incident will have done Farage plenty of good in his natural constituency, where plenty of people are thoroughly fed up with Scotland - when they think about it, which isn't often, admittedly.

claig · 17/05/2013 22:23

'He performed very badly on Radio Scotland, when he couldn't cope with the questions and hung up on the interviewer.'

Not really. He is playing the card that the BBC and the establishment and the establishment oarty are all raned agaoinst him and won't condemn the rabble who tried to intimidate him and which meant that he required police protection.

He is playing the underdog card who is challenging the establishment parties and the media, and he may pick up votes on the back of that.

WhereYouLeftIt · 17/05/2013 22:27

claig, I really think you listened to a completely different radio interview to the one I heard. He didn't sound like an underdog, he sounded like an idiot.