Tina Mallone Pregnant at 50

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AIBU to think it is crazy that Tina Malolne (from Shameless) is pregnant at 50 by donor egg?

McNew - I've already raised that point, it was conveniently ignored

"juule the menopause means women stop getting pregnant. Did you do biology at school?"

Really?
So menopause stops women getting pregnant. Okay.
What's that go to do with the reason for menopause?

I am 27 and my husband is 32 and if something was to happen to us we have plans in place, as well as life insurance so the person who will become DC legal guardian will have the money to support them.

I think as part of being a responsible parent is making plans for when the worst happens.

Jade Goody was young and sadly her boys are without a mum on the flip side there is people living in there 100's.

"those who are using nature as an argument how would you feel at a 10 year old being pregnant."

I would think it was a bad idea for a 10 yr old to be pregnant. It would mean that statutory rape had been committed on a child. At 10, I don't think a child is capable of making a fully informed decision. I believe it would be problematic for the welfare of both of the children - i.e. the mother and the baby.

I don't think anyone is using only nature as an argument against post-menopausal pregnancies - but even if they were, that doesn't mean that there aren't social arguments against pregnancy at the age of 10.

juule why do you keep asking questions which don't seem to make sense? What point are you making? I have no idea.

Is it fair on a child to have a mother who is 18 and overwhelmed? I had my DD at 18 and I was overwhelmed and out of my depth.

I'm extremely lucky to have continued with my studies and now have a career I love and can offer her and my new DS a stable, loving environment.

Quite frankly, I am a better mother at 33 than I was at 18 and I feel sorry that my daughter had to grow up alongside my own growing.

Give me an older mother any day!

how about a 13 year old in spain, where that is the legal age of consent.

Arthur - my hypothetical was based on physiological ability, not moral ability. Nature is a non-argument!

Bowlersarm, Everlong said "The menopause happens for a reason. "
I was curious as to what people think that reason is.

Sorry if I've confused you.

THAT'S who she is! I watched her on This Morning and thought "ee she looks awfully like that women on Shameless, same accent too". So she IS that women from Shamelss which explains a lot

YABU though, no ones business but theirs.

Juule, Perhaps you could explain why you think women go through the menopause. It might enlighten me.

So if a women goes into menopause in her 20 ( it can happen) should she then not have IVF.

I don't know. But anyway, that's not the discussion here.

Bowlersarm, I have no idea which is why I was interested in other people's thoughts on it.

Of course a woman who has early onset menopause you should be allowed to use science to help her reach motherhood. Anyone who says otherwise is an ass.

Juule, ah ok.

I'm always shocked that on a parenting website people will come out and judge what the correct age of 'parents' should be.
It so depresses me that those who've had the family they want will come on here and tell those that are struggling because they are older that they are not worthy of parenthood.

Menopause at 20 is exceptional, unusually premature, an individual circumstance which is different from menopause at the natural age for most women.

Freegle, nature alone is a non-argument, but it's a reasonable point to add to the wider argument.

"YABU though, no ones business but theirs."

which would be fine, but she has chosen to put her personal life up to public scrutiny

Arthur - agreed. And I hope we can also agree that as part of the wider argument, nature intended or was allowing for my body to birth at 9 and McNew at 10?

Nature, does not thankfully dictate when women should reproduce and thank science for science

"It so depresses me that those who've had the family they want will come on here and tell those that are struggling because they are older that they are not worthy of parenthood."

You and me both, LadyBeagle.

As I wrote above, my DH is over 50 and he is a fantastic dad. His parents were also older when he was born and his father is still going strong (sadly, we lost my MIL earlier this year but she was well into her 80s). I'm considerably younger than my DH, but my genes aren't nearly as good as his! All my grandparents died quite young. And yet some people think my DH shouldn't have any more children due solely to his age. Is a puzzlement, as the King says in The King and I.

Nature was indeed allowing it. I agree. As part of the wider argument we could perhaps also both say that, in that case, the best interests of both mother and child need to come before what either Nature or Science might allow. I would say that they also need to be balanced against each other, but perhaps we differ there?

No one mentions that a 50 year old father is too old because he doesn't have to give birth! I gave birth to PFB ten months ago, at the age of 37. I didn't think I was too old - but it turns out I was, really. The birth went ok, but the recovery was excruciating and is ongoing. DD won't have a sibling, unfortunately. Tina Mallone presumably has plenty of cash, which might make it easier?

It's not really about politics, age or gender, it's about the havoc that being pregnant might wreak on an older body...and that's just the first nine months. I know my pregnancies would have been easier ten years before. Age is the only reason we wouldn't do it again. We all age regardless of wants, needs. Equality etc. I had my first Chile at 35, frankly, I now look every day of my age whereas beforehand people often thought I was in my twenties. Pregnancy is tough on the human body.