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Tina Mallone Pregnant at 50

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Lickitysplit · 16/05/2013 13:07

AIBU to think it is crazy that Tina Malolne (from Shameless) is pregnant at 50 by donor egg?

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everlong · 16/05/2013 21:38

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ArthurCucumber · 16/05/2013 21:38

(Moving on from my points about elderly care...)

I think that disability, and infertility below the age of menopause, are very different, because they're a matter of individual circumstance, not our general biology.

With advances in science, many previously infertile women can now have children; and with proper support/living aids, many disabled women can now raise a family. That isn't going against natural, human biology. But it's a very different thing to implant eggs into a woman post-menopause, when it's completely normal biology for women to be unable to conceive.

Bowlersarm · 16/05/2013 21:42

Juule maybe the menopause is natures way of saying "enough is enough" in this increasingly overpopulated world. What possible benefit can there be to post menopausal women having babies? No benefit to the world and hard for the babies themselves growing up with elderly parents.

squoosh · 16/05/2013 21:42

Wannabe you say it's ok for men to be older parents as nature keeps them fertile for longer. This aside what makes a 50 year old father a better parent than a 50 year old mother in real terms? Considering that the mother will more than likely have a longer life expectancy.

KitchenandJumble · 16/05/2013 21:43

Excellent points, LadyBeagleEyes.

Lambzig · 16/05/2013 21:43

I don't know why I read this thread, I knew it would make me sad.

I had my DC at 42 and 45 after 11 years of infertility. DH is quite a bit younger. I know that I am a more patient, involved and healthy mother now than I would have been in my early thirties when I first wanted it.

I will look after my health more because of the DC, but I am aware there are no guarantees. I would say that not having children until later means having pensions, investments that mean I can afford care if I need it is a consideration.

Incidentally, I lost my mother at 6 months old (she was 32) and DH lost his 26 year old mother when he was six. Obviously not ideal, but neither of us would say it ruined our lives. There are no guarantees.

juule · 16/05/2013 21:44

Everlong - the reason they stop producing eggs is because their supply has run out. But that can be overcome with a donor egg.
What reason do you think they stop producing eggs?

LadyBeagleEyes · 16/05/2013 21:44

Oh, give her a break.
I think she'll be a fab mum.

2old2beamum · 16/05/2013 21:44

Have not read all posts (too tired too oldGrin)
I am 69 and we have a 14 and 7 year old Social Services did not think DH 66 and I were too old It was not selfishness these children needed a loving home. Am sure Tina will be a good mum

LadyBeagleEyes · 16/05/2013 21:49

Grin 2old2beamum.
You're post is the one that proves that it doesn't matter what age you are.
It's only how you love them and bring them up.

Lambzig · 16/05/2013 21:50

Oh and I should also say that due to my mother dying, I was bought up by my grandparents, in their late 50s when they took me on as a baby. I could not have had a more loving, stimulating home and I was never embarrassed by their age. To be honest, I never saw the difference between them and my friends 30 something parents (they were all grown ups).

While I don't particularly warm to TM, I wish her luck and think its not for anyone else to judge.

JennyEnglishTwo · 16/05/2013 21:52

I know of a woman who's just had her first at 52. no idea if it was a donor egg. she is deliriously happy. One child is easy. She'll be ok.

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juule · 16/05/2013 21:56

"The menopause happens for a reason. "

What reason?

gettingeasiernow · 16/05/2013 21:57

Nature is generally fairly wise and there's normally a reason why we evolve as we have. Women become infertile and men don't (or less so) - one interpretation of that could be that statistically, mothers matter more in the raising of children than men do. In the stone age it maybe mattered less to your survival if your Dad died than if your Mum died. Not in every case, but averaged out, over the generations. Not very pc I know, but there has to be a reason for the difference, or the same would have happened to men.
I'm an older mum too and it won't matter at all, provided I manage to stay alive. So I wish her well and hope her health stays good and she gets the child through to adulthood, in which case it's all great.

McNewPants2013 · 16/05/2013 21:58

I started my periods around 10, so nature decided that at 10 it was possible for me to get pregnant. So those who are using nature as an argument how would you feel at a 10 year old being pregnant.

juule · 16/05/2013 21:59

"In the stone age ....."

We are not living in the Stone Age now though.

Bowlersarm · 16/05/2013 22:00

juule the menopause means women stop getting pregnant. Did you do biology at school?

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MrsSchadenfreude · 16/05/2013 22:03

A friend of mine had a child naturally at 50. It was a bit of a shock for her and her DH after 20 years together and several failed rounds of IVF in her late 30s!

Lambzig · 16/05/2013 22:04

Gosh, they must have been thrilled.

JennyEnglishTwo · 16/05/2013 22:05

I think the menopause causes a lot of grief for women and I don't accept it!!!

women have a time schedule that men don't have which puts htem at a disadvantage in their careers and in relationships sometimes (depending on their age, stage of relationship etc).

so if we're saying it's "ok" for men to be older fathers is that not really saying that we expect the woman to be there to pick up the slack, no matter how old the dad is, never mind cos poor ol' mum is the one we know will really be raising the child. men can walk away and sometimes do, so if they're old so be it!!!!!? cos that's what it sounds like.

hazeyjane · 16/05/2013 22:05

The eggs of an older woman are often defected causing chromosome abnormalities, miscarriages,stillbirth.

The same can be said about the sperm quality of older men - which increases the chances of all of the above as well.

gordyslovesheep · 16/05/2013 22:06

dunno Everlong is it fair when men do it?

My friends mum has her at 51 - naturally - it happens - she was loved

YoureAllABunchOfBastards · 16/05/2013 22:07

Gawd, good luck to her. I'm forty and I'm fucked.