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Original poster

to think that 15 years sentence for Philpott is not enough?

131 replies

Missbopeep · 04/04/2013 11:17

15 years for the deaths of six children?

I thought you could get 15 years or life for one murder ( and yes, I know the charge was manslaughter.)

The term life is meaningless if it's only 15 years.

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WilsonFrickett · 04/04/2013 11:18

It's not 15 years, he got life. 15 years is the minimum he will serve, then he is eligible for parole which may or may not be granted.

Yellowtip · 04/04/2013 11:19

The judge was quite clear that life may in this case mean life; 15 years is simply the minimum.

MaidMiniEgg2012 · 04/04/2013 11:20

15 FRIGGING YEARS Angry and Sad

EasilyBored · 04/04/2013 11:21

It's life with no possibility of release for 15 years. If he gets released after 15 years that is up to the parole board. I doubt it will happen somehow.

EasilyBored · 04/04/2013 11:21

Not to mention he will be in his 70s by then, and quite possibly not going to live much longer than those 15 years.

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Missbopeep · 04/04/2013 11:23

I hope he rots in jail.

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KittyLane1 · 04/04/2013 11:23

Minimum should be 6 x 15 years for each beautiful child Angry

janey68 · 04/04/2013 11:23

The other two convicted only got 17 years so in reality that means they'll be out in about 8. Realistically, they are far more likely to be walking free in 2021, than the chance of philpott being around for a lot longer

It's all pretty sick when you look at the crime

ChazDingle · 04/04/2013 11:24

i doubt he'll ever get out, he doesn't seem the sort to keep his head down and toe the line so can't see him getting parole after 15 years. Plus he looks alot older than his actual age of 50 something so i doubt he'll live much beyoung his 70s anyway

M0naLisa · 04/04/2013 11:24

Life should fucking mean life.
Put him in Wakefield and let the monsters take care of him!!!!

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 04/04/2013 11:28

As others have said, he has a LIFE sentence and can't be considered for parole for at least 15 years. The parole board may decide not release him.

wannaBe · 04/04/2013 11:28

she should have got life too. murdering bastard and murdering bitch.

ChazDingle · 04/04/2013 11:28

just seen the following on the bbc site

1124: The Press Association reports family members applauded as the judge finished her sentencing and shouted insults including "Die, Mick, die" and "See you, Mairead. Hope you enjoy life on your own".

Even if she gets out after 8 year what has she got as she's given up all her family for him she'll be as bad off on the outside as in prison- prob safer in prison

Wannabestepfordwife · 04/04/2013 11:29

I think it's worrying that mairead could be out in 8 years and she would still be young enough to have more children

ChazDingle · 04/04/2013 11:31

they were taking to social services on radio derby yesterday and they more or less said that she would never be allowed to have children or even to be around children for the rest of her life. Obviously they can't stop her getting pregnant but any child she had would be removed at birth

CSIJanner · 04/04/2013 11:32

Wannabe - I think they'll probably give her a new identity but have her on SS radar if she ever does.

I don't think Philpott will get out. He's full of himself and will get into trouble inside. Parole would probably be denied,

phantomnamechanger · 04/04/2013 11:34

Mick will serve far longer than the 15 years - if he ever gets out.
His wife, well, now he's out of harms way SHE may well show remorse and get out on parole knowing she would at least be safe from him.
i dont know

she may also be released under a new ID and end up married to someone who has no idea who she is! sadly I fear she is the type drawn to "no good" men and will end up with another bullying scumbag

wannaBe · 04/04/2013 11:36

actually I do't think they'll give her a new identity. it's not actually that common for this to happen, and besides, she's probably more at risk from her own family than from the public at large.

I'm not a fan of vijilanti justice but if a member of my family did this too their child I dont think I could be responsible for my actions, and wouldn't think badly of a family member who decided to harm her in this event. And yes, I think family different to random members of the public....

phantomnamechanger · 04/04/2013 11:37

interesting thought - say she did end up with another man, and pg, and ss on the case to remove the baby at birth - how would this be explained to the babys father/paternal GPs without blowing her "cover" ?

wannaBe · 04/04/2013 11:38

she is also a scumbag though. she killed her own children. she deserves everything she gets.

Oh, so does he, don't get me wrong, but he's unlikely to ever be released whereas scum like her could be walking among us again within the next eight years.

phantomnamechanger · 04/04/2013 11:41

wannabe - any family member who harms her by taking justice into their own hands makes themselves as bad as she & mick are in harming their own. I abhor violence in all forms - would not stop me being very very angry, but would never resort to harming them - what good does that do to their OWN kids then? They would still be subject to the law, regardless of however "justified" people thought it was.

Omnishambolic · 04/04/2013 11:41

I don't think they'd give her a new identity: she's an adult, she has been found guilty. It's not like Mary Bell/the Bulger killers who were children at the time of their crimes. She may of course choose to change her own name but she'll have been released on licence so for the first nine years she'll be closely monitored and could be recalled to prison. Thereafter she'll still never shake off the authorities.

wannaBe · 04/04/2013 11:41

she couldn't be given a new identity in this country. she is too recogniseable.

but any father of any child would need to be informed of the risks she posed to children...

Wannabestepfordwife · 04/04/2013 11:42

Thank god for that! I hope they don't give her cosmetic surgery as well as a new identity.

And as for him he looks 70 already I very much doubt he will last 15 years

wannaBe · 04/04/2013 11:44

no I'm not saying it's right but I can understand why it might happen in this kind of instance. if e.g. my sister killed her children (she never would, but ykwim) it would be very, very difficult to see myself ever being able to be in a room with her without the wish to resort too violence born out of anger for the los of those children, children that were a part of my own life iyswim. As I said it's not right but it is different to pure vijilanti justice...