To be frustrated and angry that women are still expected to be the "emotion keepers" in families.

[seeker]

And if we don't stop doing it, our daughters will still be thinking they are responsible for "keeping men sweet" in 30 years time?

Headfucked,emotion keepers it's a pot pourri of earnest cliches
If someone else frets about keeping her man sweet thats her look out,her behaviour
Am I fraught about it.not not really.does the empathy cup low over?no.why should it

Of course you can be wet at any age but older ones have generally had enough.
The 50yr old old is letting her DH get away with it-she needed to tell him that she was going out after school-she would be back after bedtime and he would have to get the dinner. If she was 50 then her DC could have cooked the meal.

There are a lot of women who wouldn't let a ten year old get on with it-they won't even let them make a hot drink and toast!!

If you don't give a shit, why post though?

I find it extraordinary that intelligent, engaged, aware women can deny that this happens. And to be so very incensed at the thought that it might.

Shall I explain premise of mn to you?strangers duscuss,dont necessarily agree
Here's bit you're at..lots of mindfuckin and people apparently not giving a shit.
you're somewhat irked,that I am not empathic about the emotion keepers

SM, I think you are intentionally disrespectful. I won't play.

seeker - I agree.
I am astounded, too.

Of course it happens but it has no need to happen. I don't think that for a minute that you expect your DD to be like this seeker, and you seem to assume the rest of us need to be told what to do!
I don't know all these 'emotional keepers' -people I know married men who were on the same wave length and best friends-why on earth women should become doormats as soon as they move in with a man beats me!
I can only think that many women like to be in charge and this gives them control. Any 6 yr old boy without SN can get changed by himself after swimming-but start threads on here and the mother says they can't! (they would get changed if I had them!) -that is where you need to start-young.
All children are quite capable if given the chance. If they see their mother isn't going to do it all for them, or everything for the father then that is what they copy.

Her dc was only 8 as she was an older mum, but yeah she wouldnt say that to him as she used to stay at home so when she started work he just refused to help.

I get you seeker.

I think there's some deliberate misunderstanding going on here, plus it's a primo opportunity for a bit of feminist bashing.

Lol,intentionally disrespectful when you chatise others for not giving a shit
Now that was hardly a respectful way to dismiss other posts
You genuinely seem to not grasp mn.we all post,Expect we won't all concur.it's fun

I asked a genuine question. I don't find lack of respect fun.

I can't see why my grandmother, born in 1890, a farm labourer's daughter managed to be equal-refused to be an 'emotion keeper' , appeaser (not that anyone asked her to be) and yet a woman living in 2013, with far more education can't do it.

How v contradictory you're rude and exasperated to me but demand respect
I never actually said i dont I've a shit,that's your summation.
You seem able t dish it out but get all I want respek when you no likey a pov

Emotion keeper is ghastly term,sounds like a self help term for goddesses and unicorns

Maybe people are protesting a little bit too much?

Ach dont be harsh catmint entitled to her opinion,she clearly feels "mindfucked"

I think that unfortunately it is the sort of thread that brings out the worst in me and I am unable to have sane debate! Time to stay off MN for a while.
I can't contemplate being with a man where you are expected to do this, I wasn't brought up that way, my friends and family don't do it and I just think that a woman is 'wet' if she lets herself be put in that position - especially if she is educated. You do not need a partner- better to do without than have a useless one!

Sorry - not very clear - it is me that can't have a sane debate- it goads me into making the sort of statement that doesn't stand a second reading. Therefore best to steer clear and avoid the irritation.

So basically, any woman who isn't as assertive as you are, and who isn't as lucky/careful in her choice of partner is a moron who deserves everything she gets. And it's all her own fault- nothing to do with the the way women generally ( see that word, everyone? It means "not just you") are perceived and expected to behave by society.

In a nutshell - yes! I can't see why society expects you to do it. I am fairly conventional - I don't make any waves - I would say I am normal - no one thinks me odd for not living my life as expected by Asda adverts - most women are far braver than me.

So why do they do it? Just because society ( as depicted by adverts) expects it?
Genuine question.

Looking back, all the perfectly normal, sensible women came on at the start, posted once, to say they didn't know what OP meant and disappeared - that is what I should have done! Rather belatedly I will disappear too- so don't worry about answering the question.

All the perfectly normal, sensible women- who don't give a flying fuck about how other women less fortunate than themselves live. "I'm all right, Jill"

All the perfectly normal, sensible women who said they didn't understand the original post- because that's not what their live are like. Or that's not how they tell themselves their live are.

One thought for you to go to bed with. Since the famous Christmas advertisement has been mentioned. So you really think that Asda paid an andertising agency megabucks to come up with q campaign that bore absolutely no resemblance to the live of their customers?