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To think it is ridiculous that a woman with 11 kids is getting a £400,000 house for nowt

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angelos02 · 19/02/2013 09:59

Especially when most working people couldn't never afford to live somewhere costing that much?
Link: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280385/Home-fit-dole-queen-Mother-11-gets-BRAND-NEW-400-000-house-built-council-shes-struggling-current-homes.html

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SchroSawMargeryDaw · 19/02/2013 14:34

The goat I have only eats 50" tellys.

Auntmaud · 19/02/2013 14:34

gordy it's hardly slavery if they are working for benefits, is it? They are getting at least :

TC
Free prescriptions
HB
Free school meals
All other benefits.

But you ARE right about it not being minimum wage. Most benefit claimants, all benefits considered , are on considerably more than that.
Everyone else has NO CHOICE but to work. It's what civilised society expects of most of its citizens. Are those of us who HAVE to work enslaved?

Chattymummyhere · 19/02/2013 14:35

I no this because its my own parents!

And I have lived on benefits because funny enough I lived with them!

Because they moan about the cuts and how its their right to this and their right to that just because the law says they need a minimum of X to live off.. 2 weeks all inclusive for a holiday on a 8 hour flight twice in two years.. I would love to afford that and that was for them and two children..

Also in regard to the reporting of a single mother this man has been there everyday for the past two months over night I know this from my CCTV and the council are welcome to the copies for proof

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 19/02/2013 14:36

"A couple of hours in their community"

Do you know anything about workfare? It's not a couple of hours, it's full time and over time with no childcare, no help if you're ill and below NMW. You are considered employed in the statistics but unemployed when it comes to tax credits and such.

Auntmaud · 19/02/2013 14:37

seeker Grin and some single mothers get a £400K 6 bed house for free too!

Honestly, some folk'll believe anything, eh?

Auntmaud · 19/02/2013 14:37

Sounds pretty much like real life for most of us then, Schro.

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 19/02/2013 14:38

The money she will get for HB wont fully cover that massive house.

countrykitten · 19/02/2013 14:38

seeker sarcastic comments like that are the very ones I was referring to in an earlier post. Why try and shut down a debate and imply that others are foolish Mail reading types who believe everything they read just because you disagree?

seeker · 19/02/2013 14:39

You had your CCTV trained on her? Wow- a nosy, busybody liar. Worst kind. Yes, it's you I'm calling a liar.

mablemurple · 19/02/2013 14:39

So now we have yet another claim for benefits being "considerably more" than minimum wage, but no figures to back that up.

And now, as an additional bonus, everyone on benefits has apparently CHOSEN this state of affairs. You do realise that a lot of working people claim benefits, don't you?

seeker · 19/02/2013 14:40

I'm not trying to shut down the debate. It's a fascinating and important debate. I am trying to shut down the liars.

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 19/02/2013 14:40

Really? Do you work for below NMW? If you are gravely ill (people with more than 3 months to live and have cancer are expected to take part in workfare) would you expect time off for illness?

Plus, if you work by choice you are entitled to tax credits as the government realises that the pay isn't enough.

Not the same as workfare.

Chattymummyhere · 19/02/2013 14:42

No seeker my CCTV is to protect my property but funnily enough it does catch parts not on my property.. I can assure you I would love to never have to see the vile women next door again. I go out of my way to avoid her. Unfortunately I am not currently in a position to move from this hell hole of an area I happen to live in as it was the only affordable house the right size at the time we needed to move.

countrykitten · 19/02/2013 14:43

Workfare is not perhaps the best example of how to go about this but you seem opposed to the very principle of the thing. Would that be fair to say?

AmberLeaf · 19/02/2013 14:43

auntmaud, you work for below national min wage do you?

So the idea of people being asked to do a couple of hours in their community a week is slavery? Then really I do feel that some of you have completely lost the plot. Do any of you actually know anything about history and how offensive that comparison truly is?

If you knew anything about workfare, you would understand the comparison.

It is far more than 'a couple of hours in their community' unless you consider tesco their community

MadameCastafiore · 19/02/2013 14:44

The children do come first but I think the biggest problem in our society at present is not making people financially responsible for their choices. No one forced the woman to have that many kids and it looks like she takes no financial responsibility for her actions. I bet she would have stopped if her benefits were stopped when she got to 4 kids.

Chattymummyhere · 19/02/2013 14:44

Also you can call me a lier all you want but being brought up in a family where 98% claim benefits you see a lot and you learn how legally they can get more than they need. They know the right things to say to make sure they are not questioned about no job they get though the back to work meetings one of them because the person was going to a new job so just said I don't really care go home I will mark down that your trying

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 19/02/2013 14:45

Not entirely no. I would support people being highly encouraged and helped to volunteer and build skill sets, or occasional community hours.

Not full time work for a pittance on benefits with no rights.

And not for people who the government has decided are unfit for paid work but they are happy to make them work full time hours in unsuitable roles.

countrykitten · 19/02/2013 14:45

I was talking about a community work initiative I suppose - something I think has been mooted but has not really gone anywhere.

AmberLeaf · 19/02/2013 14:46

Workfare is not perhaps the best example of how to go about this but you seem opposed to the very principle of the thing. Would that be fair to say?

What is the principle in your mind? if people have to work for their benefits, then call it a job and all that goes with it.

workfare isnt just an example, its actually happening

SchroSawMargeryDaw · 19/02/2013 14:46

The community work idea, in the right circumstances and with proper support and reasonable hours could work but that wouldn't be enough for this government.

LtEveDallas · 19/02/2013 14:47

I do wish that idiots would stop saying she will get her house for "free" - her HB will pay for it, it doesn't make it free.

...and just because the Daily Hate thinks a house is worth £400K doesn't make it so. It probably cost less than half of that to build.

countrykitten · 19/02/2013 14:47

Yes in this I agree with you schro. But not occasional - more regular than that as I do believe that people out of work aiming to get in to work would benefit from demonstrating to future employers that they can follow routines, be somewhere in time etc.

AmberLeaf · 19/02/2013 14:48

Lots of people on benefits do already do volunteer in their community in various ways

JakeBullet · 19/02/2013 14:48

I am still struggling to understand how your parents do this bough chatty.

I honestly could NOT afford to do it...and I get extra benefits as DS is autistic but it still doesn't stretch to holidays and masses of Sky channels. I do subscribe to LoveFilm but that's paid for by exH.

Holidays are beyond me and have been for some time. DS gets holidays as his Dad takes him away. MY holiday is when he is out of the house and it's peaceful here Grin.

Just what are your parents claiming to be able to afford those luxuries?