for flouting hospital 'no sibling' rule for ebf baby?

[StarlightMcKenzie]

DS had an operation yesterday. He needed me to be there. Breastfed baby also needed me.

I took my Aunt to look after my ds and we were sent initially to a waiting room. The plan was for her to keep him there and for me to pop out of the ward to feed him.

However, we were there for half an hour and my ds started to ask for a feed, so I started to bf. Literally 2 sucks in, we were called. I pulled him off and he screamed so I jigged him about (which quietens him as a distraction) and moved towards the ward with him in tow.

The nurse told me he wasn't allowed. I told her that I needed to finish his feed and then I would take him back to my aunt. I offered to vrubg ds ub 10 mins but she got arsey saying that ds would have to have his operation cancelled if he missed his slpt. Nurse started tutting about him disturbing the other patients and that there was a strict no-sibling rule that I knew about as it was in the letter (it was).

so WIBU?

[Uppermid]

Re the deleting of posts, did you even read mnhq posts?

The baby is not fully weaned, and it was latched on. What's so difficult to understand here. She's not complained, but she's written to them about their baby friendly policy. I also can't see where she's done anything to justify the response she's had on here.

Yes the NHS is great, but there are problems and if you come up against problems surely you would fight them.

All those people who lost loved. Ones at Staffordshire hospital, should they not fight because mostly the NHS is great?

This has been a witch hunt because of who posted, for whatever reason it coloured people's views on the actual issue. If someone more popular had written the original post it would never have turned into this mess

[BigBoobiedBertha]

It might be thread she shouldn't have started because there are so people trying to find fault for the sake of it but she was quite right to start a fight (or at least fight her corner) with the hospital. Their reasons for banning a breastfeeding baby from the ward at that particular moment in time were lame. I would had something to say about it too if I had just started to feed and I then had to hand over my screaming baby to an aunt (I bet it was uncomfortable to her to stop too - it would have been for me). I would have been torn in two between my two children, of course I would have tried to sort it out the only way I could have done by feeding the child that needs feeding whilst being with the one who was in the hospital bed.

If this thread had been somebody less well known there wouldn't have been so many people trying to trip her up and make her out to be a liar. Instead, too many people have got hung up on whether the baby had eaten a pouch before and have completely forgotten about the actual situation. I mean really who cares what he has or hasn't eaten, it just doesn't matter!!!!

And of course this has the smack of a witchhunt or a vendetta about it - plenty of people have made their response to the situation based on what Starlight may or may not have said in the past and on other threads not to the situation as it is presented. I am surprised that people are allowed to get away with it frankly.

[BigBoobiedBertha]

Of course it makes a difference! We aren't talking about a toddler who is on 3 square meals a day and has milk as a supplement to that rather being his primary source of nutrition. We are talking about a 7 mth old baby who has only just started on solids but still relies on bm. There is the world of difference. Mine would have kicked up an almighty stink if I pulled them off when they had had a mouthful or 2 - they wouldn't have taken anything else at that age. I doubt very very much they are unusual in that respect and I totally understand why it was an issue for Star

But really I give up. If some of you want to deliberately miss the crux of the issue and try and find ways of making it about something it really isn't, then you won't be convinced otherwise.

Uppermid - I entirely understand your need to shout. Bloody hard to put up with people who have their own personal axes to grind.

[PolkadotCircus]

Mine caused an almighty stink about a lot of things during those 3 under 15 months days- a rice cake,bunch of keys or mobile phone toy generally did the trick.

Op must be the only mother in the land with a baby not able to be placated by a ricecake or toy for 5 minutes whilst mum deals with more pressing issues such as toddlers killing themselves mid feed.

[BigBoobiedBertha]

My children are obviously as unique as the OP's then. They wouldn't have been placated by anything else but milk as their first proper feed of the day which they had only just started but had taken out of their mouths after the first couple of sucks. It is completely different from handing a hungry fussy baby to somebody else to look after for a while, one that hadn't started feeding. Then you might stand a chance of giving something else as a stop gap.

Chunderella - do you really think there is that much difference between 6.5mths and 7mths, that your DD will change that much in a fortnight? Weaning is a marathon not a sprint. You have a bit to learn I think. Come back in a couple of weeks, and when you do, try giving your DD her first proper feed of the day, whip it away from her after 2 sucks and see if she is placated by a frigging rice cake.

And this is why I don't like breastfeeding experts - they think they know it all because they have been on a course. Every baby is different as is every mother - they all do things differently but perhaps they didn't teach you that on your course.

[Permanentlyexhausted]

Not the only one Polkadot. Mine might have been slightly disgruntled at having a feed interupted but they wouldn't have been inconsolable.

[IneedAsockamnesty]

Chunderella

You do know that baby rice is not much used these days as its a waste of time and has no nutritional value at all. Weaning advice these days tends to be totally skip the baby rice stage and start at about 6 months with actual food with some point to it.

Taking that into account its perfectly possible to think a baby who is just starting out with tastes or small amounts of actual food is still at the very first start of the weaning stages so in essence at the same stage as a simerler aged child whose being started off on baby rice.

[AudrinaAdare]

My DS would have screamed the place down even at a year old if I had started to BF and stopped, especially after waking from a nap and being thirsty. I get very thirsty if I have a nap in the day and usually put the kettle on and have a large glass of water while I am waiting.

What I do not want is a fucking rice cake when I have just woken up and my throat is dry. Seriously, how can people say that the baby should have been happy with that when they wouldn't dream of doing it themselves?

[AngelAtTheTopOfTheTree]

Ok. For what it's worth this is what I would have done in the OP's situation:

A. Called ahead to get some more exact info of how the appointment would work, regardless of how it worked last time and explained my dilemma.

B. Asked how long the Doctor needed to see me when he needed me to leave my baby in the waiting room with my Aunt. I am assuming he/she would have said "Ten minutes at the most unless you need to discuss anything."

C. Unlatched the baby and handed she/he to my Aunt.

D. Asked Aunt to take baby outside so as not to disturb other people.

D. Returned to BF baby in 10 minutes time/after appointment.

E. Thanked the staff and my Aunt.

Seriously. 'Starve', 'abandon'....how dramatic. We don't always get what we want in life and that also applies to babies who want milk RIGHT NOW.

[PolkadotCircus]

Then Audrina you take some ebm in a cup,not hard.

[AudrinaAdare]

DS didn't take bottles or cups for a year and having woken up in an unfamiliar and scary environment would certainly want the comfort of BF so it would have been hard for me. That whole time was a pain on the arse for both of us. I had to take him with elder DC to hospital and he got swine flu

[IneedAsockamnesty]

It was not a suggestion at all its rather odd that you took it as one, given that your assertion that because your baby has baby rice that means the op's baby who has not used baby rice to start weaning but actual food must therefore be at a later stage of weaning.

[Uppermid]

My god, you're still prattling on about this? What's your agenda here with start? Any other poster would not have had the same flaming about this. You see it all time with slightly different circumstances. Just because your baby would have been happy with a set of keys or rice cake doesn't mean stars baby would have been.

And yes I bought Staffordshire into this. When someone starts waxing lyrical about how wonderful the NHS is, lets look at the reality shall we, its not always so great.

I am very grateful with we have a NHS in the uk, very grateful. Many of its staff are wonderful and do a great job day in day out for not a lot of money, however like in any section of society you get a few that are utter shit, downright incompetent or maybe, just maybe are human and have a bad day and be a bit grumpy with someone when there is no need to, ooh like the original nurse.

Maybe the baby could have been placated for 10 mins by this wonderful set of keys and rice cake, however it wasn't 10 minutes was it, it was an hour and a half, so bloody good job she did feed him straight away. It's all very well asking how long will I be needed here, often the person you're asking wont know.

A hungry baby was fed at no disruption to anyone else. End of, I don't see why there is still a problem here